DAP in Detail - Now: Sasha Rose vs. Amber

[aquin]

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I think it`s important to note that in only about one third of each dapping session there are actually two dicks in both cuties sphincters. Which makes both their daps rather shortish measured by the classic dap standard as well as the new Russian standard. But anyway, I like both performances because they are quite good and both girls are cute and really styled nicely.
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Jane looses her heels too early, starting from rcdap she`s mainly just getting dipped, but in cg she takes one dick really balls deep though. Nice gapeing final.

these are quite reasonable arguments from you, dap-addict. first only short over all time with real dap (no dipping, no long winded second insertion, in other words real pounding) is really obvious. i think i will have to review some of my favories to track this down. cute girls, yes, but here are the bigger points on Sarah's side, but this is a question of low and high budget production. this also refers to losing heels:in general it's a question of care for the styling. after having watched some performances of the new russian dap wave side by side to some of the classics i see there are differences on that level. and that instantly moves me to the aspects of camera work and lighting.

aquin

[dap-addict]

cute girls, yes, but here are the bigger points on Sarah's side, but this is a question of low and high budget production. this also refers to losing heels:in general it's a question of care for the styling.

That`s a very good point. The closer I watch those new Russian dap wave films I see a nearly complete lack of care for styling combined with a kind of copy-cat thing makeing "look as" only. i.e. of course they do make their girls look sexy, but as soon as the action starts everybody involved completely forgets about it as which gives it all an amateurish touch.
The same with dapping - in a great extent it`s geared to make it look like dap, but they dont really dap those girls in the old classic style.

[gapelover]

cute girls, yes, but here are the bigger points on Sarah's side, but this is a question of low and high budget production. this also refers to losing heels:in general it's a question of care for the styling.

That`s a very good point. The closer I watch those new Russian dap wave films I see a nearly complete lack of care for styling combined with a kind of copy-cat thing makeing "look as" only. i.e. of course they do make their girls look sexy, but as soon as the action starts everybody involved completely forgets about it as which gives it all an amateurish touch.
The same with dapping - in a great extent it`s geared to make it look like dap, but they dont really dap those girls in the old classic style.

A good idea is to buy your own camera and lightning and start shooting better scenes !
And don't forget to post images and trailer here.

[dap-addict]

A good idea is to buy your own camera and lightning and start shooting better scenes !

Oh, gapelover, what happened with you that you have so many problems accepting critical stances?
This is just a discussion, sort of an in-depth review written by fans in dialiogues
Professionals may read it and make their product better. Or they may not.
Their choice, we are just fans.

[aquin]

the complete message is in the following post (actually i don't know how to delete double posts or if it is possible at all ).
aquin

[aquin]

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A good idea is to buy your own camera and lightning and start shooting better scenes !
And don't forget to post images and trailer here.

Thanks for the recommendation, gapelover, i honestly like home-made excitements. so this could be a way. on the other hand the people we are talking about are professionals who should know about angles, focus and lighting. and btw we pay money and time. therefore i think it is adequat not only to judge the actual act but also the way it is presented. this forum is called "eurogirls" and not "eurodirectors", so i think our good girls deserve good camera and light, especially when it comes to dap.

menawhile i will work on the next review of the old glam and the forced new.

aquin

[gapelover]

A good idea is to buy your own camera and lightning and start shooting better scenes !

Oh, gapelover, what happened with you that you have so many problems accepting critical stances?
This is just a discussion, sort of an in-depth review written by fans in dialiogues
Professionals may read it and make their product better. Or they may not.
Their choice, we are just fans.

To wrote down criticism is easy, but to do better is difficult, thats all i want to say !
I have visited the sets and know about a lot of difficulties, what do you know, nothing ?

[camaban]

A good idea is to buy your own camera and lightning and start shooting better scenes !

Oh, gapelover, what happened with you that you have so many problems accepting critical stances?
This is just a discussion, sort of an in-depth review written by fans in dialiogues
Professionals may read it and make their product better. Or they may not.
Their choice, we are just fans.

To wrote down criticism is easy, but to do better is difficult, thats all i want to say !
I have visited the sets and know about a lot of difficulties, what do you know, nothing ?

So it's best not to criticism overall because we can't change anything in any case, gapelover?

And your suggestion to make better films is simply sarcasm. A normal fan has not the contacts to get the models, locations, equipment, ... If you want to release a DVD you will also need a distributor, editor,... Not very easy to do this out of nowhere
(and we can see how difficult it is to find a distributor with your beloved favorite studio)!

And if I look closer to this curious thread there are just 2 fans discussing DAP scenes in detail (like the subject says) and then you come in and tells them that they don't know nothing about shooting porn. Bravo!

[dap-addict]

To wrote down criticism is easy, but to do better is difficult, thats all i want to say !
I have visited the sets and know about a lot of difficulties, what do you know, nothing ?

I know about the difficulties, but how does it come that David Perry had less of them than Joachim Kessef?
If you know it all so well, than please tell me this, gapelover!
Would also be nice to read your comment of Jana`s ATT57 performance...

[dap-addict]

this thread is dedicated to dap. so, if you don't like dap, this thread doesn't match your point in porn. i start this thread to collect and discuss how dap develops. the performers, the camera work, the action itself.

Would be nice to try a re-load and compare Joachim Kessefs Two Cocks in the Booty 4 and Giorgio Grandis 2 Cazzi nel Culo 1 (Two Cocks in the Ass 1), what you think aquin?
Joachim Kessef for sure developed a lot upon the criticism aired earlier in this thread.
Giorgio Grandi just presents us another style of doing it with these Russian cuties, less relaxed, faster and more aggressiv, but with better results overall.

[aquin]

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Would be nice to try a re-load and compare Joachim Kessefs Two Cocks in the Booty 4 and Giorgio Grandis 2 Cazzi nel Culo 1 (Two Cocks in the Ass 1), what you think aquin?
Joachim Kessef for sure developed a lot upon the criticism aired earlier in this thread.
Giorgio Grandi just presents us another style of doing it with these Russian cuties, less relaxed, faster and more aggressiv, but with better results overall.

i agree, dap-addict. dap has developped and i think it is worthwhile taking a look at these two leading guys in dap cosmos. actually i had an aupdate in mind, too, although i was thinking about these early days ladies such as Angela Winter. the aspect you are mentioning is of more interest i think. we have a lot of changes these days and even the premium porn niche dap is changing. yes, the Kessef scenes appear to be a result of our discourse, they try to avoid dipping, the Grandi thing is technically spoken more up to date. i like both versions as long as there are devoted performers. but in russia there seems to be a cornucopia of anal and dap loving actresses. so, yes we could re-start the series, i even would provide the kick off but i need to know the scenes which are shown in the dvds since i am a stremaer/downloader as you might know.
what do you say?

aquin

[dap-addict]

Excellent!
I send you 1-2 propositions each in the evening.
Probabely not Sasha Rose @ Giorgio Grandi and Vadim, though, as it looks like one of the weaker scenes on that great dvd.
And yes, later lets please do something with Angela Winter, too!

[aquin]

Excellent!
I send you 1-2 propositions each in the evening.
Probabely not Sasha Rose @ Giorgio Grandi and Vadim, though, as it looks like one of the weaker scenes on that great dvd.
And yes, later lets please do something with Angela Winter, too!

agreed, dap-addict. will take me some time to find the respective scene. in case the stage names differ from net to dvd (sasha/kate) please let me know. btw where can i order the grandi dvd?

aquin

[giorgiograndi]

Excellent!
I send you 1-2 propositions each in the evening.
Probabely not Sasha Rose @ Giorgio Grandi and Vadim, though, as it looks like one of the weaker scenes on that great dvd.
And yes, later lets please do something with Angela Winter, too!

agreed, dap-addict. will take me some time to find the respective scene. in case the stage names differ from net to dvd (sasha/kate) please let me know. btw where can i order the grandi dvd?

aquin

Shop will be on line at the end of august.
btw you can send me a list of the title to my mail too.
bye
Giorgio

[aquin]

This is to continue the DAP IN DETAIL Series after a few month interuption. Before you continue reading, please notice this: Please notice, that to me all performers in the reviewed clips are above average and good performers. but I think there is always room for improvement. So my remarks intend to give viewers another way of entering the fantatisc world of dap. The series is meant to people interested in dap, so if this is not your field of joy stop reading. i don't want to touch anybody's personal views etc.

Vanda vs. Jenny Simpson
Notice: Pictures to underline description below details
over all Vanda:
great performance, hard dap (cannot believe it was her first dap!!), really no rest, great scene, a real recommendation, Vanda is slutty and wears cheap shoes and dress this is the only part which could be improved for her, like to see her again
editing does not support the story flow, new perfomers should be established(guy enters picture, etc) not only appear,
Vanda is a nice, skinny and slutty looking girl with big anal capacities, she has really small tits, great attitude, Vanda is a No.1 dap-performer, she devotes her body to that treatment,
unfortunately there are no news about her in 2009 as far as i know

over all Jenny:
good (better the Vanda) gapes, better outfit, Jennys always too much focussed on the camera and not focussed on the treatment, more close up shots, no concentrted only on dap, some more, better face shots of Jenny, a better styling (heels, outfit, make up) than Vanda, who appear at soem times quite cheap

conclusion:
both scenes are up-to-date-daps: long daps (at least 10 min.), intensive dap-action, straight dap, less pussy action.
Vanda is more for hard dap-lovers and intensive action. Compared to Jenny S. she acts more naturally not manneristic, her styling offers some opportunities for improvement though it fits her slutty appearance. Jenny is more for gape-lovers that dap-addicts. Herr styling is much better, although she looks slutty, too. She appear to act more for the camera than to give in to the scene or proceedings. Anyway, choose yourself and enjoy both scenes!

Details

Vanda
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/vanda_2.html
from 2 Cazzi Nel Culo (Sins Store, It.) or http://www.norestfortheass.com/
timecount from start of the scene
0:00
slutty outfit, fishnets, heels but not really high heels, presentation private parts, first butt, already open anus about two fingers wide, think üprotruding cuntlips,
anal plug , finges pussy, plug out, already valuable gape which does not contract right away (!!), seems Vanda has a capacious butthole, plug slides easily back in, stretches her back hole quite wide with fingers, very relaxed muscle which is underlined by some farts
big dildo appears on the scene, Vanda moistens it incidentally and shoves it into her asshole without heasitation, fucks herself with dildo, at first carefully but then she pushes it deeper and deeper into hear rear hole
plug again, changes positon, shows a lot of gapes and stretches her butthole with finges, she seems quite comfortable with this, is quite enthusiastic about it and seems to be briefed to show a lot of gapes and open asshole, pic 1
despite of the hard treatment her anus shows no red or any othe sign of stress (!!), pic 2
5:10
first guy, giorgio (i think it is him), enters, teases her, moistens her, then goes straight to the ass, and after the first initinal strokes pushes his cock deeper and deeper in Vanda's as, she seems to accelerate the scene through motivational remarks ("fuck, fuck, fuck more, more cock in ass please", btw her english is pretty good)
8:12
second guy enters scene, directly to the ass and deep (for a first stroke) in, Vanda sucks, deep-throats, licks balls and gets analized in parallel (quite intensive passage, rich of saliva)
9:14
unfortunately or lickily (?) a cut, so i can only assume and i would agree that more than 1 minute of such at scene does not fit the nr4ta standards, third guy on sofa already integrated in action, deep anal strokes, pic 3
hard anal fucking some (poor) gapes which do not show any ruptures or other damage, pic 4
Vanda's asshole takes the treatment without any stress, still has her small heels on, would look better in high heels, has still her dress on which does not look good
11:20
again editing, begin of dp in cg, really intensiv action, the give her "no rest" but she takes it as it comes and still seems to be enthusiastic about it
12:00
First dap (at last) in cg, no dipping, excellent, both cooks in ass are moving intensively and Vanda is concentrated on the action although she has to serve three guys, pic 5,
she reacts without reluctance on the order "fuck the cocks" (in her butthole and moves her back towards the guys, cocks go even deeper in, in and out (of giorgio's cock) while the second stay in is possible with Vanda's butthole, looks easy, the cocks slides in and out again, great action, pic 6
13:18
again some editing, first signs of reddening of Vanda's sphincter, pic 7
14:29
editing, rcg dap, this position is good for camera views but mor sophisticated for the studs, it is harder so shove deep in but as before the guys do ther best and go as deep in as the lengths of their cocks allow, the cocks slip out quite often, but for the female it is the more relaxed position, not only because the cocks do not go in so deep, it is "leaned back" for the girl, we get some relaxed faces of Vanda while sucking cock, pic 8
16:10
no the challenging part, remember it is called "no rest for the ass", for Vanda begins, her facial expression gets a little stressed although she still perfoms really great and reacts on every command immediately and still smiles
17:00
red double-dildo is inserted into Vanda's cunt, she puts it into her vagina while the dap proceeds
19:12
double dildo is inserted into anal hole, additionally to the still remaining cocks, pic 9,
Vanda even helps to accomplish this, it is again an interesting parts because we see how Vanda is pushed to her limits, pic 10
21:57
editing, gape, still no signs of the on-going treatment, pic 11
22:20
we see a change of position (great), double anal doggy, pic 12, Vanda'ss quite attentive, this position, under physical point of view is complicated but it allows really deep insertion of cock which we can see, it produces big gapes and is only for dap-resistent females, great action and intensive dap (a real reference shot), Vanda gets the most possible amount of meat into her butt and she enjoys it ver much, pic 13
23:45
great gape, only a little red corona on the inner side of the sphincter
24:30
edit, change of position, only one in butt (giorgio, cg), sucking, second goes in dap again
gape, few red, sphincter looks swollen, beginning prolaps (?)
26:30
change of position, rcg, Vanda is still relaxed as the two standing guys don not join her to be sucked, giorgio still fucks her ass really deep
28:00
edit, rcg, dp, first guy try to stroke off into Vanda's mouth (take more than a minute), now she no longer wears her shoes which is dissappointing, awaiting the load she has her mouth open for the whole time does not look good that long, tastes the first load, second load at 30:00, third guy switches from ass to pussy to get the final tease for his shout (should have stayed in ass), finally shots into Vanda's mouth, she cleans up and say something i don't understand (russian?)
31:34 the end

Jenny Simpson
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/jennysimp.html
from Two Cocks In The Booty 4 (Combat Zone) or http://www.doubleanalzone.com/index.php?page=2
timecount from start of the scene
0:00
Jenny as usual, slutty outfit (fishnet body, already drawn between her pussylips, fishnet stocking, no garter belt), presents body, private parts, medium shaved pussy (proof that she is a real blonde?), butthole is a little open (presumbly because of preperation)
2:00
editing
2 guys (one is Joachim, the other one is quite hairy) with big black mamba dildo inspect and tease her
2:26
cut, already 2 fingers in butthole, insert dildo, prepare her, first good wide gape (great at this early stage) Jennys sphincter is already reddening and seems stressed, pic 2, Joachim works the dildo quite gently, other guy teases Jenny's small cuntlips (soft action), dildo is more dipping than inserting it
4:28
edit, change of position, spread legs, Jenny weras real high heels (sandals, nice, good), reddening corona of sphincter, pic 3, some edits
5:28
Jenny sucks, deep throats, quite soft, nice scene where Jenny is in a crouch on high heels and sucks
7:45
edit, anal fucking, straight to the ass, gapes, Jenny farts, seems relaxed, sucks the other guy
8:12
finally dap, and doggy (!!), one guy goes in very deep, Joachim is dipping, edits, doggy dap
continues, pic 4
8:47
change of position, rcg, dap, no dipping, pic 5, Jenny has taken her heels off (disappointing), her stocking have come down, more gapes pic 6
11:15
ass to pussy, so now we have dp in rcg
11:40
pussy to ass, dap again
13:08
Big black mamba dildo is back and inserted
13:25
dap continues in rcg, agfain black mamba,
quite a long tiome without any change of position or action
15:28
dp, alternating cocks in ass, dap
16:35
edit,change of position, cg, dap (?), dp, gaping, now Jenny's asshole seems to get sour, it closes much slower than in the beginning
17:42
edit, joachim in doggy, Jenny sucks other guy, no deep throat
18:35
edit, Jenny spread legs, harder anal treatment only joachim, black mamba, Jenny's face gets sweaty
20:40
atp, pta from hairy guy
21:22
Jenny's ass is really worn out by this time, it doesn't close any more properly, pic7
22:30
edit, change position on sofa, dp, dap, buit now we get some nice views of Jenny's face during the final procedure, she looks stressed after all, pic 8
24:40
final simultanious stroke off into Jenny's mouth, she cleans and wavees good bye
25:30
the end