alexxx wrote:Very interesting debate. I can only say that I consider Angelina a big actress (with many talents) and Ricardo a big agent (with different talents
). Sometimes big clash but everybody has its own fair reasons.
the flu aka annoying sicko wrote:i suggest administration should give ricardo soli his own vip thread to discuss his obviously painful job as the good samaritan;
but this thread here is to talk with and about angelina
camaban wrote:Ricardo Soli wrote:camaban wrote:I'm really afraid about the future of the porn business. If girls like Angelina, who did top performances for many years now, are not paid properly for their work, then it's obvious that doing porn isn't as attractive for young girls as it was a few years before. Where will this end?
And dap-addict, I don't think that the financial crisis is the big problem, it's that too many comsumers didn't pay for porn anymore. Instead they download it fore free over the net. So the producers make less money and therefore they invest less money for new productions. ...
To Angelina: Have you thought about going to America? Hungarians didn't need visas anymore from November 15th on. There's many regulations in 2257 who can work under which conditions in the US, but agents like Mark Spiegler maybe have a few tricks to bypass it.
By the way: I love your avatar. I never can get enough of watching your hot butt
I know you're asking Angelina, but let me share my opinion about.
The biggest productions, are asking from as old agencies to pay them our fees in case if the model didn't show up, the deduct from our fees if the model doesn't show up with natural clean nails, if she's not with fresh washed hair, if she doesn't have enough clothes, if she's not in time at the shooting, etc. I agree, but udually they don't have problems with me. They've decided to do like this cuz of the "no rules" situation generated by them, starting every day a new agent (wich was working as driver, assistant, or location manager to them before), only to can make economies on fees, "stealing" convincing the models to work independent, or with the new agent of them.... Doesn't exist anymore agents can educate the models how they have to work in this biz. No rules. Like this doesn't exist motivation for no one to work. Why i have to convince nice , inteligent girls to do this job, if i know i'm working to be soon or later a looser, making money for others wich doesn't do nothing, only they convince the models to left the agent, to listen from that time to them. 7-8 y ago we were 3-4 big agencies in Budapest. We had fights also, but we could threat this things, and to take care about our biz. I a producer started to convince a model to work independent, we all stop to work with him anymore. Now, we are minimum 15 agents for the same amount of work with let's say 3 times more girls than before. Less future movies wich need big work indeed like castles, factories, hospitals, big studios, cuz everybody's doing gonzo in a hotelroom or small appartment. Like this the big agencies doesn't need to organise this locations-less ag fees.We're in the EU comunity, so we have to work legal, to pay taxes. And to cover sometime the models fees too.So we're getting 10% of what we were getting 8 y.ago for the same work we do. The models doesn't care, only about theyre money, and to be trated as pornstars immediately after the 1.anal scene they do. The companies also. They better need a pimp wich is holding the model at the work, waiting to finish and bringing her in a nightclub or at an escortwork, instead of reliable companies working for money, giving a business education to this beginners in the BIG LIFE how they are at 18 finishing the school, becoming adults. With the models i had long time ago i could simply organise 30 girls+ 100 figurants in case for a "Gladiator" , 15-20 actors every month for a Woodman movie somewhere in the tropics, today i cannot assume my responsability, and organise more than 5 models for the same level movie, even if i have triple more models for casting....This is why Woodman, and others wich were big doesn't want to work anymore, not only cuz of the financial degree....
About working in U.S., yes it is a good opportunity for models like Angelina Crow, or other reliable pro workers, but i'm not sure can be a promise, cuz of the 2257, and i feel it will be an enormous imigration of east european models wich will make a big problem for everybody again. I'm affraid the imigration officers will wait at the airport border the models with pornmagazines in theyre hands, and hopefully this will not risque the "no more visa for U.S." situation for others waiting to go there as turists. Like this will be verry big problems in our country....
dap-addict wrote:Can we go back to Angie - and only her! - now?
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Btw, Ricardo, I`d be happy to include you into my Euro Agencies Tribute thread in the main forum section.![]()
Just PM me a list of (anal-friendly) girls you made big in your 12 years as Buspest agent, please. Or if you prefer it that way, post it there yourself.
the flu aka annoying sicko wrote:and again: why don´t you create your own thread or post in the thread dap addict mentioned ?
i repeat your once said promise not to post in this thread again
Ricardo Soli wrote:dap-addict wrote:Can we go back to Angie - and only her! - now?
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Btw, Ricardo, I`d be happy to include you into my Euro Agencies Tribute thread in the main forum section.![]()
Just PM me a list of (anal-friendly) girls you made big in your 12 years as Buspest agent, please. Or if you prefer it that way, post it there yourself.
I think the list of anal friendy girls introduced by me, can be too long to be posted here. Why?The answer is simple: Cuz being the agent of Woodman since 96 i had introduced on around 300 girls Woody friendly, from which min.200 become "not only woodman-anal friendly". Let's say from Dora Venter, Mandy Bright, Rita Faltoyano, Lara Stevens, Judith Fox, Petra Short, Monica Sweet, Lauren Kiss, Mia Stone, and many other names i can't remember to be mentioned from the Woodman era (80% of Woodman girls 96-2002), until Madison Parker of today, starting a new era After-Woodman with let's say Angelina C. and many others on around 50 more anal friendly you can find on EBI babes.
Angelina Crow wrote:I did enjoy the sex before I started modeling. Just analsex was new for me. I did never try it before. And for me was easier to do it in shooting, I don't know why. I did try to enjoy the work as far as possible, because I think of you, who will watch itWhen I worked I changed me to Angelina, who loves to do a lot of dirty things
dap-addict wrote:Finally there are some new results for that HALL OF EURODAP FAME:
The winner to the TWO DAP ONLY Eurobabe title 2007 is known!
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Its Magyar cutie Angelina Crow and I can tell you she won with a really big distance.![]()
Angelica already won ROUND 1a with a huge lead of 79%. In the SEMI-FINALS 2a havever she came only 2nd with 36% or the vote (Claudia Rossi 40%). Meeting Claudia again in the FINAL the Slovak cutie had no chance and Angelina won with 52% (vs. 16% for Claudia Rossi).
Angelina did her first daps early in her porn career thus boosting it even more. Later she threw in a second dap for than pretty new 21 Sextury. Watching those scenes there is only one question left: Why did she obviousley enjoying this do only two daps? Well, I guess Angelina wants to keep dap something really special for her fans.
Anyway, both her daps she did in rc and cg - while many less experienced Eurodap girls choose the slightly easier reverse cowgirl dap position only. She chooses, however, to start rc before moving into the deeper anal cg position.
the flu aka annoying sicko wrote:Ricardo Soli wrote:the flu aka annoying sicko wrote:and again: why don´t you create your own thread or post in the thread dap addict mentioned ?
i repeat your once said promise not to post in this thread again
Hey dude, let me post where the fuck i want.... I post exactly on the thread i have the post i'm answering.
You know what? Don1t post you in this thread anymore! Okay?
If you want to chat personally with Angelina, just go on facebook, myspace, or write her directly at angelinacrow.hu.
sorry, you are completely clueless, get sober and clean;
i´ll tell you forever: in summer,after insulting here + her,you promised not to post here again;all those posts were deleted by administration;
you,and nobody else,were responsible she said not to post here anymore (likely because of your betray of internals),
but it looks your memories fail and your nerves are not in good health for whatever reason
ps: i never said i want to chat,so,thanks,but i don´t need your advise
camaban wrote:I'm really afraid about the future of the porn business. If girls like Angelina, who did top performances for many years now, are not paid properly for their work, then it's obvious that doing porn isn't as attractive for young girls as it was a few years before. Where will this end?
And dap-addict, I don't think that the financial crisis is the big problem, it's that too many comsumers didn't pay for porn anymore. Instead they download it fore free over the net. So the producers make less money and therefore they invest less money for new productions. ...
To Angelina: Have you thought about going to America? Hungarians didn't need visas anymore from November 15th on. There's many regulations in 2257 who can work under which conditions in the US, but agents like Mark Spiegler maybe have a few tricks to bypass it.
By the way: I love your avatar. I never can get enough of watching your hot butt
dap-addict wrote:Thank you a lot for this sincere answers, Angie!![]()
If I ever doubted about the Budapest biz, I know it now: They introduced Angie to anal sex and registered that for us!![]()
As far as enjoying your work, it doesnt look it was hard for you on most sets. But thinking of us porn fans of course is a very nice thing. I hope you truely felt that appreation coming back from us!![]()
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You wrote in an earlier post you didnt plan any further daps. Does that mean that despite their high popularity and performers like Erik Everhard you really seemed into at the times, you didnt manage to enjoy it on set? Why? Or do/did you just mind the much longer shooting time compared to simple anal?
dap-addict wrote:Angie, I know it`s a long time ago too, but do you remember this scene?
I cannot imagine you dont!![]()
What are your memories thinking so many years back?
Would you work with EE again if he turned up in Budapest tomorrow?
Thanks for your answers, Angie!
perfect gape wrote:hmm...
i don't know what to say to all this discussion, i only know that:
i like porn, i like gapes and i like angelina crow very, very much! for me and her fans it's sad if she retires, but i think for a girl maybe it's also good if she can quiet the pornindustries, because i think it is sometimes a sordid business. and as a porn-consumer, probabely an porn-addict, i feel guilty sometimes for beeing a part of all this! Sorry for that angelina!
but angelina, just think about it, that even if they say it were managers, producers or angents who put you somewhere, or made you famous or made you a star; all those men out there who know you, and especially your real fans (not only thounsends - tenthousends, hundredthousends!); THEY DO LIKE YOU, ANGELINA! THEY LIKE YOUR SMILE, YOUR BODY, YOUR ASS! THEY LOVE YOU! (and not some guys behind the scenes)
angelina, i collected so many of your scenes on dvd and on my pc, and i will keep going on to enjoy it to watch them. and besides that, when i don't watch porn, you can't imagine angelina, how often every day it happens to me , that i start thinking and fantasizing about you, your sexy smile and body and your lovely perfect gape!![]()
i wish you all the best, whatever you do
take care angelina
love
perfect gape
dap-addict wrote:Angelina Crow wrote:I did enjoy the sex before I started modeling. Just analsex was new for me. I did never try it before. And for me was easier to do it in shooting, I don't know why. I did try to enjoy the work as far as possible, because I think of you, who will watch itWhen I worked I changed me to Angelina, who loves to do a lot of dirty things
Just wanted to re-post one effect of Angelina thinking of us (and us thinking of her):
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from the Eurodap FAME thread: (including very nice Angie caps!![]()
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dap-addict wrote:Finally there are some new results for that HALL OF EURODAP FAME:
The winner to the TWO DAP ONLY Eurobabe title 2007 is known!
![]()
Its Magyar cutie Angelina Crow and I can tell you she won with a really big distance.![]()
Angelica already won ROUND 1a with a huge lead of 79%. In the SEMI-FINALS 2a havever she came only 2nd with 36% or the vote (Claudia Rossi 40%). Meeting Claudia again in the FINAL the Slovak cutie had no chance and Angelina won with 52% (vs. 16% for Claudia Rossi).
Angelina did her first daps early in her porn career thus boosting it even more. Later she threw in a second dap for than pretty new 21 Sextury. Watching those scenes there is only one question left: Why did she obviousley enjoying this do only two daps? Well, I guess Angelina wants to keep dap something really special for her fans.
Anyway, both her daps she did in rc and cg - while many less experienced Eurodap girls choose the slightly easier reverse cowgirl dap position only. She chooses, however, to start rc before moving into the deeper anal cg position.
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