DAP in Detail - Now: Sasha Rose vs. Amber

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Sorry, double-post!

...but here is Janet cumming again:

Zoom during Janet Alfano`s rcdap in Wrecked`em 1 (Zero Tolerance)

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To go back to the original Janet Alfano (WE1) vs. Juliana2 (TCB2) discussion, here are a few of Janet`s caps:

Janet just enjoying it.

No full body shots in rcdap, but Janet`s face says it all!

But basically all caps just underline for me that Juliana2 has just no chance against Janet Alfano.

Okay, lets try to compare both scenes again as I have just re-watched them carefully:

Janet starts with a painfully long tease bearable just because she emanuates such a genuine lust that the pressure rises with every time she inserts her finger into her pooper.
I`d split the scene in a quite bad rcdap fragment she`s starting with and an excellent rcdap to end with:
When the sex fianally starts it seems however, we get a pussy-only part first. This luckily turns swift in a cgdp, but still, I think they could have cut that pussy fucking back to a few secs. The cgdap evolving a few mins later is shot and filmed far too close with the camera pinning either on the girls ass are into her face, but not showing any real full body shot during dap. Still, at least both fuckers bang into her ass and they do it quite deeply. Still, as if it couldnt get worse Janet hops into another lenghty pussy-only in rc.
A complete other picture Janet presents in her rcdap part: After the lenghty pussy-only intro things are paced fast and we get via rcdp into over 3mins of very climatic rcdaps with both studs baning in (at around 70% dicks lengh). Janet gets off again and again!
This part clearly saves the excellently (but too long) built up scene showing Eurodap lust at it`s best including the due pressure release of not only the studs but - most important - also the girl involved.

Janet bending her body back while dapped to her x-th orgasm

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Now Juliana2 (not to be mixed up with the much more talented Juliana Grandi!) also starts with a lenghty tease session, just that this Russian girl seems completely clueless how to caress her body, lest convey lust to the porn fans watching her.
Thus with not much heat built up, after a lenghty dp we finally jump classically into rcdap first. Though this lasts quite long the dapping is again and again intercut with dp parts to give the girl`s probabely to give the girls ass a break. Contrary to aquin I wouldnt say most rcdap is just some dipping. Still, true, in about half of that workout the upper fucker merely dips his dick-head into Juliana2`s ass.
This is for sure far from a decent rcdap workout. Worse it still gets in cg: The cgdapping is really short and the upper fucker just basically dips that ass, sometimes even not really entering it.
The girl basically just gets over both positions clearly fakeing some sort of lust. No wonder, if she doenst really know how to please herself on set alone, how could she allow to get some joy out of two studs gently dapping her ass?
Too bad, me too, I contributed to selling this as part of the Russian dap revolution.
Well, it maybe a revolution, but not of the kind dap-fans want.

No matter wheter the studs are just dipping during dap Juliana looks like she`d got banged balls deep to her limit.

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Both attachements are typical for the respectably girl`s dap performances, I think.
And you?

[laura]

I think to make a truly enjoyable sex act and not just a case of 'look we have filmed a dap the fans will be pleased' both cocks need to thrust deep to portray the sexual energy involved. Dipping is a cop out in my eyes. I wanna see em buried x

[aquin]

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Both attachements are typical for the respectably girl`s dap performances, I think.
And you?

Excellent break down of the two scenes. no need to say more. i think the analysis has quite good and future oriented findings. i may not forget the fantastic caps you made, which are really helpful for all those who have not the opportunity to wathc the scenes. i can't wait for the next comparison.

aquin

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my first topic will be a comparision between classic dap and new dap. i differentiate between these classic and new because since the russian babes stepped onto the clearing i think we have new dap. so classic dap is before the "russian revolution" and new is since then.
(...)
the main difference between these two scenes is the way the guys push their cocks into the ladies' asses. in WE one moves the other one pauses, in tcb2 both are working all the time...

Remember this statement, aquin?
Seems like you were to imply a supperiority of "new" over "old", pre-Russian DAP-revolution daps.
And now?

[aquin]

my first topic will be a comparision between classic dap and new dap. i differentiate between these classic and new because since the russian babes stepped onto the clearing i think we have new dap. so classic dap is before the "russian revolution" and new is since then.
(...)
the main difference between these two scenes is the way the guys push their cocks into the ladies' asses. in WE one moves the other one pauses, in tcb2 both are working all the time...

Remember this statement, aquin?
Seems like you were to imply a supperiority of "new" over "old", pre-Russian DAP-revolution daps.
And now?

yes i do remeber. honestly i am happy that i wrote these words. it show how such a discussion as we have it here can push things forward and beyond pure counting. i mean, both we are fans of dap and there have been a lot of comments that kind of practice. but this thread worked out something new which wouldn't have been detected without the discussion. so, that things now look the other way around is proof enough how fruitful the discussion is.
i'm looking forward to another classic-new-pair.
aquin

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this thread worked out something new which wouldn't have been detected without the discussion. so, that things now look the other way around is proof enough how fruitful the discussion is.

True!
I am surprised with the outcome myself.
Up to now I didnt really watch how deep those dicks actually go, apart from those rare balls deep daps, but rather checked wheter both fuckers thrust their dicks inside simultaneousely. And than it all just happened comparing two of my all time favorites - Melissa Black and Julian Grandi. And here we go: There is more to dap than it always seemed!

Before we start with another classy vs. new comparison, just let me drop one other observance quite evident with Juliana2: I dont know wheter you have been to Russia or met many Russian women, but there is something special to many of them, which Giorgio Grandi once phrased as "being a tank". It`s a mixture of real endurance against all odds with very feminine styling. Most Russian women can really put up with things girls (and guys) further West, Czech and Hungary included, would just crack. To me it`s up to that special way of Russian upbringing. Anyway, it makes a lot of these porn girls move on to the most demanding porn act(s) really quick and they usually can handle it, but at they same time - at least with many of them - there is something crucial missing, some class emanuating from genuin lust. Being "like a tank", and a well decorated one, has many good points for a producer, but the porn fan also wants to see that the girl isnt just a machine, but knows how to enjoy herself.
And now just lets go back to Juliana2`s tease section: This girls doenst even know how to touch her own tits!
(No generalisation intended. Just for further discussion...)

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Being "like a tank", and a well decorated one, has many good points for a producer, but the porn fan also wants to see that the girl isnt just a machine, but knows how to enjoy herself.

To avoid misunderstandings and the objection I was just generalizing it`s probabely better to add a good example of that in my opinion typical Russian "being like a tank" thing.
Let`s take Juliana Grandi - we discussed first (Juliana in TCB2 vs Melissa Black in WE1) - in another of her early enveloppe pushing scenes:

(from: Tre Cazzi per Godere 5, ATV)

Now here we have a Russian girl knowing exactly how to please herself, knowing exactly what turns her on and being maximum open to new experiences staged by a porn director. The scene dwells on that dpp+an triple (rather than the dap), an act demanding obviousely a lot from Juliana. But not only does she go through it "like a tank", she really does the best to enjoy herself at the same time. Sadly there was probabely not enough time to shoot the scene, because when the dapping finally starts Juliana looks still very exhausted from that triple, still of course she cums or at least very convincingly pretends to. I dont think Juliana Grandi pretends much on set, though. She`s too spontaneous in her scenes. Anyway, Juliana Grandi for sure has had another upbringing and other sexual experiences before entering porn - not to mention Giorgio Grandis school. But at the same time like a real Russian women she can take really a lot.
Girls like her may really revolutionize Europorn! They also show that at least in Russia it is never too early to propose a girl to try a dap. But directors have to learn that it`s also a hit and miss situation. And think of a strategy what to do if it`s a miss. Dap dipping may be that strategy. But does it work?


Btw, special thanks to Juliana Grandi her early dap works!

[aquin]

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Girls like her may really revolutionize Europorn! …
Btw, special thanks to Juliana Grandi her early dap works!

yes, absolutely correct. Juliana Grandi pushes things forward with her addiction and her talent . It's only a little distressing that she doesn't do more daps. but i hope she will in the future.

aquin

[laura]

Juliana does look glorious. I so wanna see one of her daps. Seems to me that these russian 'tanks' have a tolerance to intense Fucking that seems inbred to them. I wonder if its genetic or just a more liberal upbringing? Anyway they are gorgeous x

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Seems to me that these russian 'tanks' have a tolerance to intense Fucking that seems inbred to them. I wonder if its genetic or just a more liberal upbringing? Anyway they are gorgeous x

No idea about Russian genetics, but for me it has a lot to do with the Russian way of upbringing girls and Russian traditions, too. I wouldnt call it liberal, though. Just maybe in this sense that the prude late communist times are over. But the "Tank syndrom" (hahaha..., thank you Giorgio for this! ) is something deeply inbedded in Russian women`s reality. It`s rather along the lines be `beautiful and strong, than life will help you` - than the British/French/US liberal way of ´experiment and find happyness` way.
Hope this is clear - at least together with my Juliana2 vs Juliana Grandi dap scene mini-reviews.

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It`s rather along the lines be `beautiful and strong, than life will help you` - than the British/French/US liberal way of ´experiment and find happyness` way.

Just another typicla "tank" cap of Juliana2:

Of course Juliana2 can also fit two dicks in her mouth, she can do it..., she`s strong Russian girl.

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[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

ahahaha! was really smiling for this posts!!! thanks to everybody!! =)) i love you all!! and i also sad that nobody dont shoot DAP with me! if i find somebody ready to shoot! i will let you know!! =)) kisses

[aquin]

this is my new update for this thread and i chose Sarah O'Neil out of Wrecked'em 2 (WE2) and Jane from Teenage Tryout 57 (TT57). A classic lady and a new russian girl who already had her appearances.

Sarah comes perfectly dressed with a star makeup, fingernails etc. her styling reminds me of Juliana Grandi's looks, quite diva-esque. Big picture i would say. We can enjoy a long teasing section (which is obviously not my favorite part of porn movies). She shows some pre-dap gapes which seem to indicate that her anus is already stressed to the limit (see cap 1). this stays until the end of the scene: red butthole from the edge to the depths. When the dap action starts around 1:18 it doesn't take long that the guys do what we all call pounding. both dick are mvoing in and out and not only the spearheads but serious centimeters. there is hard dap as i would call it in rcg and cg, good camera angles which show some of Sarah's faces (see cap 2, 3). She really gives in and still looks great. Takes a lot although reviewing Sarah O'Neil scenes i often get the feeling that dap seems too much for her responsive sphincter. but it's not.



coming to Jane who is one of the comrades of the russian dap revolution in that crucial movie TT57 i was a little reluctant. we have the so-called dipping case and i wondered what would be the outcome of my review. well, Jane wears nice clothes white overknee stockings, mini skirt, heels and suprisingly a butt plug. again some teasing, the plug goes off and we can see the first shy gape. Janes anus is really tight and it doesn't show any markers of stress (see cap 4). little pinkish areas but nothing more. around 1:55 we see the first dap, sad to say, her heels are long gone and it takes about 10 minutes until we can say it is hard pounding. for the first 10 minutes, of which not all are dap, only one dick moves (the other one looks much more like loaf of bread) and the one which moves goes in (more than dipping but less that good) (see cap 5). but time goes by and around 2:04 we find real hard dap, both dick moving and a valuable depth. you cannot measure the whole scene because there are so many cuts, new angles, etc.



conclusion: so, we have at least 6 minutes of hard dap for Sarah and nearly twelve minutes dap of Jane which is quite good. But finally it's 50-50 because of the more definite daps for Sarah, the styling, camera-work and editing and the pure length of Jane's performance.

enjoy.
aquin

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conclusion: so, we have at least 6 minutes of hard dap for Sarah and nearly twelve minutes dap of Jane which is quite good. But finally it's 50-50 because of the more definite daps for Sarah, the styling, camera-work and editing and the pure length of Jane's performance.

First of all very nice choice and comparism, aquin!
I think it`s important to note that in only about one third of each dapping session there are actually two dicks in both cuties sphincters. Which makes both their daps rather shortish measured by the classic dap standard as well as the new Russian standard. But anyway, I like both performances because they are quite good and both girls are cute and really styled nicely.
For Sara I`d also like to point out that she starts with a really good hard pounding cgdap workout moving only later to for most girls easier to perform rcdap. This gives her for sure some extra credit. Jane on the other hand gets quite a lot of Russian dipping only, and this even fucked by two much smaller dicks than Joachim`s/Giorgio`s dicks in the case of the previouse two Russian revolution girls. On the other side Jane also also some rare real balls deep dap in cg - at least from her upper fucker. The way both studs dap her still needs some further examination, though.

At the moment just let me post a few more caps illustrating the whole course of events:

Pay attention to Sarah O`Neil`s glamouresc style even while dapped, but also her weak tit cumshot action.



Jane looses her heels too early, starting from rcdap she`s mainly just getting dipped, but in cg she takes one dick really balls deep though. Nice gapeing final.