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Postby OneWhoKnows on Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:17 am

camaban wrote:I concerned about the cheap and dirty locations, the same 2 or 3 rooms, the same 2 or 3 couches, ... long ago in the Sineplex thread and was bashed away why I care so much about the surrounding of the set. I should look at the action, but if the action is lame you also register more details around. It seems now people care more about that, and that's good.


Dude, you got bashed because you bashed other people aswell, not because you were concerned about dirty location at Sineplex sets. I have to admit that I didn't read every post, but that discussion was really rude and unobjective. And no, it's not like people NOW seem to care about it, I did care about it before already, but didn't want to take part in a discussion that led nowhere else as to bash other people - especially gapelover, who is just a fan who shares the info he gets before everyone else with us and who is not responsible for the conditions on Sineplex' sets at all.

the flu aka annoying sicko wrote:you are concerned about the location etc., so what ?
aren´t there more important problems in the world to be solved ?
just don´t watch those sineplex movies (nobody forced you): it would save your time and it would save the time of other people reading your (and a few other writers) personal opinion over and over again


I agree with you that certain people in here took that discussion a little too far. But just ignoring the problem is the wrong way either, imo. If the set is dirty in general and the girls still work there - whatever, agreed. But if they get sick afterwards because of bad hygienenic conditions, that's definitely a different story and that has to be stopped. Getting someone to clean that damn apartement can't be that expensive, especially not in Russia!
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Postby paroxysmia on Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:31 am

Yeah I want a code bar on model ass with label "100% safety. Filmed in good conditions" ! :lol:
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:03 pm

paroxysmia wrote:Yeah I want a code bar on model ass with label "100% safety. Filmed in good conditions" ! :lol:

Really not funny! :x
100% safety will never be. But I dont like us customers to look down at these girls proving us with so much of fun and give a damn about all the rest.
As I wrote before when the big rush to Budapest started 1990 there was no internet and a lot was possible in those wild times, but now we have 2008 and we customers have other possibilities. I think we owe that to those cuties really! And decent Russian production conditions, agencies, testing stadards etc. will also be a good investment into St. Peterburg as future main Europorn production place. :arrow: :idea:
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Postby OneWhoKnows on Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:22 pm

dap-addict wrote:
paroxysmia wrote:Yeah I want a code bar on model ass with label "100% safety. Filmed in good conditions" ! :lol:

Really not funny! :x


Errrm... Well, at least I was pretty much lmao :lol:
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:27 pm

OneWhoKnows wrote:Errrm... Well, at least I was pretty much lmao :lol:

:?
Imao?


Btw, I think gapelover has to basically blame himself. I know he`s a nice guy basically, and it`s a difficult job he took maybe a bit lighthearted from Javier for a few free dvds per month and one flight ticket to St. Peterburg. :wink:
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Postby OneWhoKnows on Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:35 pm

dap-addict wrote:
OneWhoKnows wrote:Errrm... Well, at least I was pretty much lmao :lol:

:?
Imao?


Btw, I think gapelover has to basically blame himself. I know he`s a nice guy basically, and it`s a difficult job he took maybe a bit lighthearted from Javier for a few free dvds per month and one flight ticket to St. Peterburg. :wink:


Lmao = laughing my ass off.

Lighthearted? Dunno about that. As far as I know he didn't say the sets were dirty, but that they weren't that clean, but on the other hand also not that bad. Maybe they cleaned it up before letting him in, but whatever, he can only tell us what he has seen with his own eyes, right?
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:09 pm

OneWhoKnows wrote:but whatever, he can only tell us what he has seen with his own eyes, right?

Sure. But the way he does, shows a lot. And it was actually him critizing those girls seriousely to not clean the rooms after she shooting was over! :x
As far as I know he also doenst speak Russian, thus while talking to those girls he was quite limited. But later of course he claimed to know the whole truth.
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Postby joachim kessef on Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:45 pm

everbody know i had some different with some people here;this studio is clean before we were shoting a lot of set a day so after 3set a day imagine with many people around, so it about organisation;Wiska has different story with sineplex so in my view it not easy after many set a day to clean that place every hours. So i hope people can understand that but ;i dont want influence nobody view ;i just want to bring my view i know some russians studio you will not stay there 1sec but i will not give any name what i saw stay in the busness i am professional
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:16 pm

Now this is a fair,open and at the same time professional answer! :)
Not that aggressiv shouting and accucations we usually get from gapelover in his Sineplex tread.
Thanks a lot, Joachim! :)

I have jus one question, Joachim:
joachim kessef wrote:so in my view it not easy after many set a day to clean that place every hours.

Can`t the basic cleaning be done in 5-10 minutes?
I mean mst important are the cum and other body fluids stains. Use a seperate bedsheet on the sofa and change that, quickly wipe the wettened floor, table etc.
But of course If noboday from the team wants to do it, than they need to pay a cleaning lady all day. And that will cost 20-30$ more. I guess they dont want to invest that money... :? :roll:
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Postby gapelover on Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:40 pm

dap-addict wrote:
OneWhoKnows wrote:but whatever, he can only tell us what he has seen with his own eyes, right?

Sure. But the way he does, shows a lot. And it was actually him critizing those girls seriousely to not clean the rooms after she shooting was over! :x
As far as I know he also doenst speak Russian, thus while talking to those girls he was quite limited. But later of course he claimed to know the whole truth.

Oh man, i wanted not to talk any more in this discussions, but i have NEVER said that the girls should clean the rooms themself !!!
A lot of performers make a lot of mess and garbage on sets, they are eating, drinking, taking a shower and so on !!!
So maybe everyone can carry his own garbage away, that's all i've said.
And the producers won't let clean up all rooms every day.
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Postby Juliana Grandi (Karmen) on Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:57 pm

in all st-petersburg there is ONLY ONE company that do everything clean aтв perfect! its not possible to work for them without test - location its everytime clean!! and this company that shoot for teachmyass (they have many websites)!!! they are really best in organisations!! all others are dirty and not safety!! Sineplex dont know what is clean the toilet (i hope girls dont need to do this)!!?? Giorgio usualy shoot at his home - so he clean everything perfect!! becouse he live there - he has a woman that help to him clean all this bordello!! about Rocco - he maybe would like to do more perfect and in clean place!! but usualy he shoot in the rent studios - where toilet look like street WC!!! really a lot of people work witjout test in Spb!! they try to save money with this (test in russia its 50$ - full)!! stupid but its like this!! i will not tell the name of productions who shoot porn without test - just for dont have problems!! but now really i dont care - i stoped to work for russian and in Russia!! BASTA!! tired!! clean WC + full test + clean dress + clean dildos + clean locations = and this small russian unlucky productions will have future
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Postby cleopatrox on Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:25 pm

Juliana Grandi (Karmen) wrote: really a lot of people work witjout test in Spb!! they try to save money with this (test in russia its 50$ - full)!! stupid but its like this!! i will not tell the name of productions who shoot porn without test - just for dont have problems!! but now really i dont care - i stoped to work for russian and in Russia!! BASTA!! tired!! clean WC + full test + clean dress + clean dildos + clean locations = and this small russian unlucky productions will have future
some more question!
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Did you have a problems with STD after russian shoots? What is the real situation? Does performers shoot with condoms if they not did tests or not? What is the consequences? How much performers came down with STDs after untested shoots? Did you have a serious STD outbreaks like syphilis outbreaks in Czech Republic?
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Postby cleopatrox on Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:10 pm

I saw some of your films, Juliana. Bareback rides with intense anal sex, DP, double anal, cumshots in the ass, ATP. Stick it! I know that it is high risk level. If you did that in these conditions you are real extreme girl, Juliana. But take care about your health, please. We wait for new films with you!
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Postby Juliana Grandi (Karmen) on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:03 pm

nobody in russia dont shoot porn with condoms!! they dont care what will be with girls after the shooting for this production!
some days ago was call me one guy - he was ask me to work for him! i told my price and that i need full test of the guys NEW!!he answered that "YOU DONT BELIVE (trust) ME??.... i was shoked put down the phone and dont answer to his call never!!
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Postby camaban on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:17 pm

Many thanks Juliana for this insights. So it's very dangerous for both male and female actors to work in porn in Russia. I'm not suprised that Russian companies pass on the usual tests to save a little money. But the Western companies too? It's more and more clear why these companies shoots there: To produce porn as cheap as possible to make the most profit possible. They don't care about the girls, clean conditions on the set, possible diseases because of unclean conditions, ...

What makes me sad, is that you say its not better on Rocco's locations, besides it looks much better on video than the others. Money rules the world, nothing else.
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