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Postby aquin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:22 am

gepont wrote:
Add to the eco slowdown, the tendency of harder and harder gonzo (tamed teens, dominated girls, slapping, spitting, anal and dp) is not the best start for most newbies. In the past many girls could work for years without doing anal or dp and they could progress in their careers. Now they face the requirement for these kind of jobs (much sooner) but then many of them will think "thanks but no thanks"... :evil:


and surely the competition from russia is hard to take. tt57 and tcb2 showed how many talents from the east are willing to do hard anal right from the start and stay in business as for example Prima, Noell or Juliana Grandi proof, who already has 32 appearances in her ebi-list including at least 2 daps.

so this might be very discouraging to start if you live in the czech republic or hungary and think of all time stars as jennifer stone or angelina crow who entered the business early and still are well established (and go without doing dap like jennifer or only few like angelina). but now they wouldn't earn a dime without many daps.

ffor me it is ok because russia has many beautiful and talented dap performers and i like some very much.

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Postby alexxx on Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:14 am

aquin wrote:
ffor me it is ok because russia has many beautiful and talented dap performers and i like some very much.

aquin


And this is the second very important aspect: the current viewer expects harder things from the actresses and this push prods towards that.
We already discussed it many times but this is important.
Prods are for sure looking for the top from ladies but this is because a more standard scene (no deepthroating, no gapes, no DP, no DAP...) will not be appreciated by some viewers (most under 30s...).
DP and cum are part of porn; DAP and swallows are for porn-stars!
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Postby dap-addict on Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:28 pm

gepont wrote:The business slowdown is obviously not good for the long careers in general, many girls opt for day jobs, webcam, escorting or whatever pays their bills and fit to their personalities.

Add to the eco slowdown, the tendency of harder and harder gonzo (tamed teens, dominated girls, slapping, spitting, anal and dp) is not the best start for most newbies. In the past many girls could work for years without doing anal or dp and they could progress in their careers. Now they face the requirement for these kind of jobs (much sooner)


I dont really see a difference to about 5 years ago concerning anal/dp actually. :?
Also than it was not really possible for the average girl to build a porn career on non-anal in Hungary.
But starting with lez/mast only is still viable.
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Postby dap-addict on Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:35 pm

aquin wrote:
gepont wrote:
Add to the eco slowdown....

and surely the competition from russia is hard to take. tt57 and tcb2 showed how many talents from the east are willing to do hard anal right from the start and stay in business as for example Prima, Noell or Juliana Grandi proof, who already has 32 appearances in her ebi-list including at least 2 daps.

so this might be very discouraging to start if you live in the czech republic or hungary...

Today`s porn biz doenst really need so many girls staying inside longer anymore.
In Russia - but also in Budapest - you see a clear tendency of come and go, retirements and returns.
But the competition has become bigger with the financing problems of many companies for sure. And Russia plays an important part here, indeed. I get the feeling, however, that most companies have started too late to get their feet into Russia with its immense and cheap talent pool. But I cannot immagine that no agency and nobody else in Budapest/Prague will take advantage of that situation and start to channel those Russian cuties directly into our welknown Buda/Prague porn sets.

Wheter these girls will shoot 3 scenes or 30 in their Budapest/Prague porn career, aquin, is secondary. Some will manage to stay longer, some will disappear, some will never come but work directly in Russia. Amongst both groups very few will become new time porn stars like Juliana Grandi or Wiska. And to get to this level, even to start working on a porn set - as alexxx already pointed out - dap/dp/gapeing will be a must. Russian girls will have no problem with that - and Magyar girls will for sure adapt to the new situation.

Me, I am waiting for the Russian flood to reach Budapest and save the established safe and legal porn stooting facilities.
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