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Re: tests in russia

Postby cleanlife on Fri May 30, 2008 2:24 pm

cleopatrox wrote:
cleanlife wrote:Nice question!!! And more that that -it is correct wonderings))

All models working to Sineplex in Russia where sick afterwards, beccause in Russia they ask only tests for HIV, Gepatit, Siphylis!

It cocsts around 50-60 USD to make it. To make all screening tests will cast 150-200 USD.

Now imagine, if the model is paid for her work at Sineplex 200 USD - how really often they do screenings??? Maximum HIV, Gepatit, Siphylis.

The other shooting companies - around the same shit. Usually hte models are working, then sick and then pay more than halh money they got for the doctors.


It mean that tests for chlamydia and gonorrhea is not mandatory in russian porn! It is like real russian roulette! :shock: :shock: :shock: I read about some chlamydia cases in the sineplex, but I thought that it was accident. Now i understand what was the cause. Only 200 USD for unprotected sex scene without mandatory tests for chlamydia and gonorrhea - it is insanity! :o

how much they pay for creampie orgy?
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Do not know, thre are not too many creampie orgies are shooted in Russia. But this is not roulette, most of the models are sick or where sick after shootings in Russia (on studios like Sineplex). Add to chlamydia and gonorrhea, papilloma, ureaplazma and herpes. So good luck with russian roulette in Russia))) Gapes and creams might not be so cheap for your health)))
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Re: tests in russia

Postby Camarillobrillo on Fri May 30, 2008 3:02 pm

cleanlife wrote:Do not know, thre are not too many creampie orgies are shooted in Russia. But this is not roulette, most of the models are sick or where sick after shootings in Russia (on studios like Sineplex). Add to chlamydia and gonorrhea, papilloma, ureaplazma and herpes. So good luck with russian roulette in Russia))) Gapes and creams might not be so cheap for your health)))


I'm not goin' to take anyone's side but this and your last comments assertions were quite lesive of the
reputation of Sineplex company and of other studies working in Russia.

If you have the proof of what you're saying you should step up and make
a proper accusation but with your name and surname on...

It's just too easy to shoot point blank on someone while behind a nickname
and a computer screen

Just my 2 cents worth...
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Postby dap-addict on Fri May 30, 2008 3:15 pm

Keni Styles wrote:
dap-addict wrote:
ronk wrote:I want more Russian daps. When is the next batch of all Russian daps coming out? I would like to see more of Jane and Katrin and more newbies.

If I got Joachim Kessef right, he is already shooting more Russian daps for Combat Zone. 8)

Anyone knowing more? Any new porn travellers arrived in Piter during the last few months.
:?:


Hey guys,

This is really an exciting time for russian models to showcase themselves and compete on the europorn map. I do not have any information about the other producers but I can assure you the real leader coming out of the dark tunnel of russian daps is Joachim Kessef!

Yet again another undenyable french pervert is pushing forwards and you can really expect to see a lot more from this man in the nearest future. He is just about to set off to Russia again and I think this time he has an added spring in his step! He is using a great team and he and his actors are specialists in this, you can really see in the performances.

I was with him in Prague when he came back from a long trip in Russia not more than a few weeks ago in April or something. He showed me some of the raw footage, completely uncut that he had just shot there and I have to say that these are the best dap scenes I have ever seen.

Long sustained action in the dap, no blocking of the shots and the many many fresh faced girls are looking so sexy, who the fuck cares about the furniture when this kind of action is going on? lol!

:lol:
Indeed!

Thanks a lot for this post, Keni! :)
Thus Joachim continues to shoot daps for Dion`s Combat Zone in St. Peterburg! :D
I am really glad his porn director career, which seemed a long time in limbo, is thus takeing off fast now. 8)
Joachim worked really hard for it, harder than many others I`d say. And he never was content with just the easy road.
Not to forget about the fact that he is really a good performer, too.
Would be nice actually, you would dap some of those Russian cuties together in the future, Keni. What you think?


Btw, Cleo and Clean, accidents happen everywhere. "Russian Roulette" sounds impressiv, but we all know that some people in Prague and Budapest are really worried about Piters success. Fighting back this way, is just cynic. :( Every insider will confirm you that tests in St. Peterburg are standard biz level.
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Postby ronk on Fri May 30, 2008 3:27 pm

Keni Styles wrote: Hey guys,

This is really an exciting time for russian models to showcase themselves and compete on the europorn map. I do not have any information about the other producers but I can assure you the real leader coming out of the dark tunnel of russian daps is Joachim Kessef!

Yet again another undenyable french pervert in the foot steps of CC is pushing forwards and you can really expect to see a lot more from this man in the nearest future. He is just about to set off to Russia again and I think this time he has an added spring in his step! He is using a great team and he and his actors are specialists in this, you can really see in the performances.

I was with him in Prague when he came back from a long trip in Russia not more than a few weeks ago in April or something. He showed me some of the raw footage, completely uncut that he had just shot there and I have to say that these are the best dap scenes I have ever seen.

Long sustained action in the dap, no blocking of the shots and the many many fresh faced girls are looking so sexy, who the fuck cares about the furniture when this kind of action is going on? lol!

Im my eyes there is nothing bisexual or gay about appreciating or performing in this kind of niche. In my opinion the best thing about dap, as somebody else said before is the awe. The amazement factor that the girl is making such an extreme act. The fact that it is such a boundary pushing display of her limits is what makes her truely amazing.

So at this point, if she is maintaning any kind of enjoyment or pleasure even at this extremity, and for me personally it must be genuine pleasure not some kind of "oohh aaah yes fuck me" through gritted teeth and teary eyes. Then this, this is amazing display of hunger in a woman and simply for that reason it is really a great turn on for me!!

I'm a big fan of this too so I cant wait,

Keni

:D


This is great news. Hopefully, the new daps will be out by August or September. New gals taking long and well shot daps are just what the good doctor ordered. I am looking forward to the great action shot by JK.
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Postby dap-addict on Fri May 30, 2008 4:10 pm

ronk wrote:This is great news. Hopefully, the new daps will be out by August or September.

It took exactly 6 months for Joachim Kessefs October 2007 shot Piter daps to be released by Combat Zone.
Of course I hope for Dion and his crew to spead things up, also in their own interest. But I guess it`s more realistic to wait for those April shot long Russian cutie daps to get released as Two Cocks in the Booty 3 in October this year only.
But maybe some JK daps make it earlier into another Combat dvd? Or at least online? :arrow: :idea:
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Postby Keni Styles on Fri May 30, 2008 4:30 pm

dap-addict wrote:But maybe some JK daps make it earlier into another Combat dvd? Or at least online? :arrow: :idea:


Guys dont thank me, I'm just passing on my opinion and what I know.

I certainly dont want to spoil any press releases for my french friend but if I speak to JK before he reads these recent posts I will promt him to give you guys some VERY exciting news about his forthcoming projects!

Like I said, the man holding the torch in the gaping tunnel of russian dap porn and who is also bring us the newest russian starlets of the future is Mr Kessef!!

Keni

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Postby Keni Styles on Fri May 30, 2008 4:46 pm

dap-addict wrote:Would be nice actually, you would dap some of those Russian cuties together in the future, Keni. What you think?


We have already spoken about it...

Here is another little inside info on a project that is waiting in the starting blocks at the moment.

Did you know that there is only one scene that I am aware of in the history of porn, dvd release and internet that actually shows a girl getting dp'd or dap'd with an asian and an black cock!? A real fresh mixture in interracial right?

If I can sell the "Black Thai Experience" to one of the big networks to aim at the interracial market then we can all look forward to taking the first budget directly over to St Petersburg! 8)

Keni

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Postby gapelover on Fri May 30, 2008 5:27 pm

Joachim will tell you soon about it i am sure and he plans some crazy new project ! :wink:
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Re: tests in russia

Postby cleanlife on Fri May 30, 2008 7:48 pm

Camarillobrillo wrote:
cleanlife wrote:Do not know, thre are not too many creampie orgies are shooted in Russia. But this is not roulette, most of the models are sick or where sick after shootings in Russia (on studios like Sineplex). Add to chlamydia and gonorrhea, papilloma, ureaplazma and herpes. So good luck with russian roulette in Russia))) Gapes and creams might not be so cheap for your health)))


I'm not goin' to take anyone's side but this and your last comments assertions were quite lesive of the
reputation of Sineplex company and of other studies working in Russia.

If you have the proof of what you're saying you should step up and make
a proper accusation but with your name and surname on...

It's just too easy to shoot point blank on someone while behind a nickname
and a computer screen

Just my 2 cents worth...



Thank you mate, even 1 cent is a money) As you might imagine I will not attach the medical results of the models... But, there is no need to proof this. Send your model for a cast and they will tell you what tests they want to see))) I bet 4 viruses not more)))
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Postby giorgiograndi on Fri May 30, 2008 8:16 pm

I'm sorry but I think a lot of mistake.
99% of times is the production that pay the test for the girls in Russia.
In Russia we do those tests
epatit B, C
HIV
Sifild
Clamidia
and Gonorrea.
Those are not the standard test, usual the standard test is without Epatit B, becouse in Europe the people is vaccinated (in Russia not).
This is for Me, Sineplex, and Forengin productions.

The problen about the test are the russian productions that USUAL WORKS with no blod examination for new models also.
My experience tell me that the big mistake is DON'T DO the test for the new person that arrived in the businnes.
Usual, every months the girl do the test minimum for one production, may be for 2.
If you tell me that sometimes same girls works with the test a little hold I agree with you, but this is normal in Buda or Pragh too if you know your partner or if your partner is a usual workers in this businnes.

About papilloma virus: I know that exist aroud 12 tipe of papilloma virus (may be less or more, I don't remember exactly), but for 7 kind exist one vaccine (that is not possible to buy in russia or in italya also)

Personally I think that I sow less problems in Russia than in other country, but this is one job, and every job has its risks, and every day something can appen.

Specially I know for sure that SINEPLEX send all the models to do those examinations.

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Postby cleanlife on Fri May 30, 2008 11:11 pm

giorgiograndi wrote:I'm sorry but I think a lot of mistake.
99% of times is the production that pay the test for the girls in Russia.
In Russia we do those tests
epatit B, C
HIV
Sifild
Clamidia
and Gonorrea.
Those are not the standard test, usual the standard test is without Epatit B, becouse in Europe the people is vaccinated (in Russia not).
This is for Me, Sineplex, and Forengin productions.

The problen about the test are the russian productions that USUAL WORKS with no blod examination for new models also.
My experience tell me that the big mistake is DON'T DO the test for the new person that arrived in the businnes.
Usual, every months the girl do the test minimum for one production, may be for 2.
If you tell me that sometimes same girls works with the test a little hold I agree with you, but this is normal in Buda or Pragh too if you know your partner or if your partner is a usual workers in this businnes.

About papilloma virus: I know that exist aroud 12 tipe of papilloma virus (may be less or more, I don't remember exactly), but for 7 kind exist one vaccine (that is not possible to buy in russia or in italya also)

Personally I think that I sow less problems in Russia than in other country, but this is one job, and every job has its risks, and every day something can appen.

Specially I know for sure that SINEPLEX send all the models to do those examinations.

Bye



Giordgio,

You can believe in what you want to believe as this is part of your business to make picture better than it exists in reallity.

The reallity is that most of the girls from 80-90% where infected after Sineplex.

You are right for
epatit B, C
HIV
Sifild -

these are standard Russian blood test (spravka)

But for Hlamid, Pappiloma and others non blood tests is not true.

I'm not even saying about ureaplazma - which is usually girls affected virus and requires not less efforts than Hlamid to heal.

I think this will not stay too long unattended as espessialy Sineplex is in the bad list as from models as well from medical institutes.

Also, there is an economical reason under this - you pay not europian price, to make girls go and spend money for their health safety.

Unfortently in Russia - there is low healh culture yet, but again - it will change and as in Hungary will steadily grow as well as costs for you to pay models on European level.

Nothing personal just observations.

If you need some more details which models where infected during last 6 motnhs go to private I will share.
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Postby dap-addict on Sat May 31, 2008 9:09 am

cleanlife wrote:Also, there is an economical reason under this - you pay not europian price, to make girls go and spend money for their health safety.

As Giorgio already pointed out in 99% of the cases the producer pays for the girls tests in Russia. This is the only main difference to Budapest/Prague concerning tests. And these tests are often more expensive than in Budapest/Prague. But the girls are cheaper... So make the bill!
Apart from this do you really think Giorgio, Joachim or Rocco want to get infected themselfs in Russia? :roll:


Btw, again, your post just shows me that you have a problem with the fact that Russian girls are cheeper than Budapest girls. Strange motivation for such posts... :(
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Postby cleanlife on Sat May 31, 2008 9:21 am

dap-addict wrote:
cleanlife wrote:Also, there is an economical reason under this - you pay not europian price, to make girls go and spend money for their health safety.

As Giorgio already pointed out in 99% of the cases the producer pays for the girls tests in Russia. This is the only main difference to Budapest/Prague concerning tests. And these tests are often more expensive than in Budapest/Prague. But the girls are cheaper... So make the bill!
Apart from this do you really think Giorgio, Joachim or Rocco want to get infected themselfs in Russia? :roll:


Btw, again, your post just shows me that you have a problem with the fact that Russian girls are cheeper than Budapest girls. Strange motivation for such posts... :(



Personally I think that I sow less problems in Russia than in other country, but this is one job, and every job has its risks, and every day something can appen.

Specially I know for sure that SINEPLEX send all the models to do those examinations.



Read carefully SINEPLEX send the girls - not pays for the tests - do you feel the diff???

I'm saying here about the sandwich factory - SINEPLEX mainly.

My motivation is very easy - coming to Russia to shoot the girls feel responsibility in what you are doing be proffisional abd not be a pig outside your motherland.

I'm closing this topic as it is useless to discuss.
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Postby dap-addict on Sat May 31, 2008 12:09 pm

cleanlife wrote:My motivation is very easy - coming to Russia to shoot the girls feel responsibility in what you are doing be proffisional abd not be a pig outside your motherland.

Fully agree! :)
As for Sineplex, I know they are a bit fishy company (also Wiska told EBI some stories...), but we are not talking about Sineplex in this tread, but companies shooting dap in Russia.


:arrow: Cant wait for Joachim Kessefs Russian dap cutie news! 8)
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Postby Mr. Peter on Sat May 31, 2008 2:16 pm

I cant speak for Russia nor Hungary.

But in Czech Papilomas and Chlamydia infection is quite often as a result of loose people's behaviour not in porn, but in their normal lives. Thats reality, just live with it.


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