Falling in porn-"love" with Eurobabes

[dap-addict]

Whilst we're on the subject of dumb porn loves, I have to say I always thought that Lucy L was a intelligent girl. Brunette, not too much make-up, and sensibly dressed, but it seems I was wrong. In the movies and the BTSs she says almost nothing, she has learned no English, and she smokes!

But I still love her! Of course this lack of English might just be a way of preserving her privacy.

Almost certainly no way of preserving her privacy, but just lazyness or/and a lack of intelligence.
I mean who works as a professional in this very international business and doesnt speak at least english apart from her mothertongue just harms herself!
And I really wondered with a few girls - also a few I once was in porn-"love" with. Just take the bts of Rocco´s Nasty Tails 3 as an example: There occurs a severe problem during Bibi Fox dp shot. Bibi doenst want to perform/play anymore. She runs of the set, hides in the make-up room. But as the scene is shot in Roccos villa in Budapest there is nobody speaking czech around. And Bibis english is too limited to explain what´s the problem really. Awkward situation!

On the other hand there is Vivienne LaRoche talking fluently in French with JYL while he shoot her in Euro Girls Never Say No 1, than talking with Steve Holmes - if memory doesnt fail me - in German as soon as he arrives as a guest on the set. And we all know that she speaks fluently english, too. She jokes around in english, every single word makes sense.

But is this all crucial for porn-"love"?
(I was in porn-"love" with both Bibi and Vivienne)
How much does intelligence count when falling in porn-"love"?

[Priapus]

Interesting, it sounds like there's more to Vivienne than just an elastic sphincter and an accommodating rectum. To be honest, I only know a couple of her scenes. (Often when i'm checking out a scene, i have to keep the volume at a whisper or off, for reasons obvious to those who share their space with others. Then i may never go back to it if i wasn't suitably impressed.) She did strike me as very vivacious, but i wouldn't have imagined her to be such a competent multi-linguist. Maybe V's got that good ear for languages and has traveled a lot; maybe she studied hard in school or maybe she's a genuine intellectual or scholar.

Wouldn't this be a nice story: "University Professor led Double Life as Porn Starlet when Student." Of course I'm being facetious, as always, but why not? Stories like Puma Black being at university or Gauge going to Law School, however, are a little hard to swallow (tho Gauge for one never had any trouble taking the big gulp). I do know that plenty of university women in the states work in sex clubs, in various forms of prostitution, and, i'm only guessing here, in porn. The money is relatively easy & good, and they probably enjoy it for the thrill. This reminds me of a girl I knew of back in the 80's who posed for one of those "Girls of the Ivy League" spreads in Playboy. She was a real head-case and sadly never graduated as she jumped off the balcony of a high-rise dorm her senior year.
But I digress once more. I cant help it.

As i said above about Kyra, it's pretty difficult to judge anyone's smarts from mostly visual evidence. And I'd say it really doesn't matter for "porn-love" or porn fandom. What does matter for me is seeing some evidence of personality. Many great girls show it (Regina Ice & other new wave Rumanians, Bijou/Stracy, Patricia D, Tera B, Sunny/Alisa, Sneila, etc etc). Many of my favorite hot-hot lookers/fuckers do not, and I still find their stuff immensely satisfying as erotica (Lara S, Sabrina R, Sylvia D etc). It's the ones who are consistently passive and obviously just-going-thru-the-motions that really bore me (I wont name names cause I cant usually remember why i avoid certain famous stars and wouldn't want to mistakenly offend them or their devoted fans).

A big problem for me with EuroPorn is the language issue, and it's not that I dont understand Czech or Hungarian. The girls cant really show any depth of personality because they're generally not given the chance to speak freely by the producers and directors. Maybe a few well-rehearsed lines in English at the beginning of the scene, then it's right to business as usual. It's a mistake to assume that the American market (at least this market of one and I know i'm not alone) wants these girls to clam up and not utter a coherent sound, just for an endless stream of ooohs & aaahs. I love to hear these girls speak in their native tongues or accented English! The articulate voice can be very sexy indeed. (I'd attach an audio clip, but i guess that doesn't really make sense, does it?.)

This is why I watch those Private Life of movies. Not for the scenes, most of which are not the given girl's best, but for the interviews. I really should check out some bts material. Any recommendations, boys?

[dap-addict]

I wonder what their personalities are like in real life: which girls are funny (Regina Ice) and which are just silly (most); which are halfway intelligent (Michelle Wild) and which are dumb as they seem (most)

I´ll think of some good bts (maybe better in another thread), Priapus, but I also want to tell you that I dont like that cited attitude. I mean fact is that we porn fans just dont know much more about these girls than how they perform certain (often much cutted) sex acts.
And assuming that who performs this for money (and thus us) is just basically dumb is just really unfair! And bullshit, too!


Vivienne La Roche may be an exception with her language skills, but than language skills alone is not all. And I know from inside that a lot of Eurobabes work in porn to finance their studies. As for Vivienne La Roche I sometimes really wonder what this past porn-"love" of mine, who has still a central place in my porn heart, does today. She may well work as a translater, or in the Czech EU mission of Bruxelles, or as an University lecturer... Still, what fixed me to her (and still does!) is basically her documented dap-ability.

[Priapus]

Dapper, if you dont mind me having a little fun with your alias, your point is well taken. Mea culpa.

Please, cut me some slack here. I'm brand new to this forum or any forum, so i'm still learning the ropes of posting and the culture of the posters. Also, since i've never been able to discuss my fascination with pornographic actresses before, except in the most superficial sort of way, i'm just beginning to find my voice here. My attitudes, or better, the expression of my thinking is evolving post to post. The anonymity granted by this medium is a freedom i've never enjoyed before. You can see by the number (and long-windedness) of my posts in the few days since i registered that i'm totally consumed by it at the moment. It's a liberating and exhilarating experience but i've got to calm down soon. I've become more obsessed with posting than I am with porn itself!

But i'm not here just to see my words online and to get a reaction or info but to be entertained and educated as well as to educate and entertain. That's what they call a dialogue or dialectic.

And I think you've overlooked this evolution by skipping over what i said on this here after the quote above and before my last post. I wrote:

<< . . . But if you're [dap-addict] saying, "how the hell does he [myself] know whether Kyra or any of these girls are intelligent or not," you're absolutely right. It's just a guess based almost entirely on visual evidence. It's just bullshitting around on my part. We all know the saying: "You cant judge a book by it's cover." Look, over the years I've misjudged many public figures as well as people I know personally, but I try to be open to changing my opinions. Most of these girls are just young not dumb.>>

Look, i cant worry about every little offense i might cause or take. We're big boys here and the play can get rough at times. I'm sharp-tongued and hopelessly sarcastic by nature. That cant be changed only modulated. A modicum of politeness and respect is expected of all around here, and I'm trying, lord knows i'm trying, to be "nice", even though i have a wicked mean streak that's not always under control. I'm also hopelessly sentimental in so many ways.

I know you weren't being judgmental of me personally just of my words, as well it should be. You're clearly a thoughtful and sensitive individual, despite what your predilection for a harder sort porn might suggest at first. I enjoy watching a good dap as much as the next perv , especially if i like the girl (though I certainly would participate in one). Hell i'll even watch that slut Kelly F Wells once and a while for kicks. And i can call her that cause that's the professional persona she's created for herself. It's not always easy to maintain the distinction, but we must understand that there's all the difference in the world between these women as performers and as human beings. (I only hope they themselves can maintain it. But sometimes what you see is what you get.) I mean I can criticize a main stream actress in the starkest terms for her acting or make fun of their public actions as much as i want, but what interest do i have in them as private individuals? That's where you (i dont necessarily mean you dapper) cross the line from being a casual fan to a fanatic.
There, enough said, i'm sure.

Oh and I think a BTS thread is an excellent idea and look forward to it.

[Toffeeman]

Well my favourite Vivienne moment (post-DAP) was when the male director asked what "it" felt like and she said, quick as you like, and not rehearsed, "it felt like two dicks up my ass". In perfect english and Priapus-style sarcasm.



That what makes me think she is quite bright. But it's the DAP-ability combine with the intelligence that makes her one of my porn loves!

[robot]

I'm brand new to this forum or any forum

some of the uber-logins here think otherwise... me included

anyway. word of advice: please be careful not to land in blacklist-land IMHO your posts are innocuous and totally harmless, but hey, there might be other opinions around

[Priapus]

Toffeeman wrote:
<<Well my favourite Vivienne moment (post-DAP) was when the male director asked what "it" felt like and she said, quick as you like, and not rehearsed, "it felt like two dicks up my ass". In perfect english and Priapus-style sarcasm.>>


Goood one! Grrreat!!! Brought a big smile to my face and i may have even chuckled. (I rarely laugh-out-loud at anything i see or hear on the net; i used to think that lol meant "lots of luck" til i finally had to look it up on Wiki.)

Well, gentlemen, now i'm impressed at your V.

But was she being sarcastic, Toffee? Yeah, i guess so, especially if the guy thought he was putting her on the spot, cause she sure made him look foolish with that deadpan comeback. But that's better than sarcasm, which usually has an element of meanness toward whomever it's directed. This is just downright witty! (I'm smiling again as i write this!)

[Priapus]

I'm brand new to this forum or any forum

:wink: some of the uber-logins here think otherwise... me included :wink:

anyway. word of advice: please be careful not to land in blacklist-land 8) IMHO your posts are innocuous and totally harmless, but hey, there might be other opinions around

I'm serious, for once, about that. I've never belonged to any forum or done any blogging, myspace style stuff etc. (I rarely use email and go weeks at a time without even checking it. I keep forgetting my gd passwords!) I've certainly had a look around a few places as a guest. I started checking this place out when i realized the old comments section was no longer useful for newer babes. And even then i was just in it for the freebies, shame-shame. I could barely navigate my way around til i registered and attempted my first posts.

Well, I now admit, upon reflection, this is not completely true. I have left comments at one or two other sites i've belonged to, but these were either brief words of thanks or off-the-wall observations. No dialogue, no commitment. As Priapus, i'm a new man!

Hey Bunny i sent you a pm a few days ago. I'm sure you get more of those than you need, but please have a look when you get the chance.

[robot]

I'm brand new to this forum or any forum

some of the uber-logins here think otherwise... me included

anyway. word of advice: please be careful not to land in blacklist-land IMHO your posts are innocuous and totally harmless, but hey, there might be other opinions around

I'm serious, for once, about that. I've never belonged to any forum or done any blogging, myspace style stuff etc. (I rarely use email and go weeks at a time without even checking it. I keep forgetting my gd passwords!) I've certainly had a look around a few places as a guest. I started checking this place out when i realized the old comments section was no longer useful for newer babes. And even then i was just in it for the freebies, shame-shame. I could barely navigate my way around til i registered and attempted my first posts.

Well, I now admit, upon reflection, this is not completely true. I have left comments at one or two other sites i've belonged to, but these were either brief words of thanks or off-the-wall observations. No dialogue, no commitment. As Priapus, i'm a new man!

Hey Bunny i sent you a pm a few days ago. I'm sure you get more of those than you need, but please have a look when you get the chance.

dude, you are like a little kid. how many times should i ask you the same question to get the truth, and the whole truth. i have my finger on the trigger... and i know what i want to hear. your call.

[dap-addict]

Hey guys, I for one would be happy if we just could keep track with the thread subject again (which is true for many treads "Priapus" enters/hijacks, however). My first questions started like this:

Maybe I have to disperse my thoughts after having lost my most recent porn girl I sort of fell in "love" with - the exotic looking Magyar cutie Kyra Black, but let me start a discussion about falling in porn-"love".

Most of us have their favorite porn girls (chris and angelito have Simony, kenbac has Bibi Fox, nylonlover Carla Cox etc) but how loyal and affected you are to them? How are your feelings? Have you sort of fallen in "love" with them?

What else does you bind to them?
Do you try to book a date with them (provided they escort)? Do you collect all their scenes?
How far goes your loyality? Are you jealous of their porn partners? Jealous of their bf?
And finally: What makes you quit that mood of haveing fallen in porn-"love"?


I know from nylonlovers tread that he really feels a strong emotional bound, me on the contrary I was always very promiscous in my porn-"love". I usually have about 20 girls at once I fellow - some of them long time favorites, some of them rookies entering my porn heart. Rather seldom it happens that I "fall" like I did for Kyra Black end of last year.

Thanks for your answers!

...and the last tread subject evolvement was how much intelligence and language skills of a girl contribute to falling in porn-"love" for her/being in porn-"love" with her?
Ta!

[lotus108]

Intelligence/linguistics alone are not a requisite for porn love. . . but if a girl I'm already in love with later reveals her smarts or language skills, that would definitely double my infatuation. My equation:

Bambi (her looks and persona) + intelligence/language skills = I will do anything to become her boyfriend.

[dap-addict]

Intelligence/linguistics alone are not a requisite for porn love.

This is 100% true in my case, too.
But I also have to say that once I fell for Vivienne La Roche a few years back her sexy voice even enchanted me more and her language skills and witty answers made me become "faithful" for quite a long time.
I never tried to become her bf, though. Just wanted to stay her a dreamgirl, I guess.
I still wonder sometimes, however, if I´d tried to book her as an escort if she offered her services back than. I guess rather not, though. Well...

[Toffeeman]

Indeed that would be quite a dichotomy. Meeting your porn love, and then you have to pay for her. If she were truely you porn love she would love you and want to devote the rest of her life to you, or perhaps not.

I've been lucky. i've met one of my heroes (not a porn star!!!) and he lived up to my expectation. Think how it would be if he had been unpleasant.

Sometimes it is better to leave your idols on their pedastal.

[dap-addict]

Indeed that would be quite a dichotomy. Meeting your porn love, and then you have to pay for her.

I dont see contractiction here really. I mean buying her porn works I pay for her, too. Booking her as an escort I would just buy some other services of my porn-"love". And as its all in my immagination I would for sure not expect neither of us to fall into non virtual love.
My question is only how much a real fuck would kill my sex godess fantasy.

[Toffeeman]

...indeed. What would the real thing do? Assuming that it did happen, I guess the fact that you found her attractive the real thing should be better. She's not going to become ugly in real life.

The thing I worry about with, say, Lucy is that she might be completely cold and characterless in real life. I don't think that would be a problem for Vivienne though.