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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Dr Proctor on Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:41 am

Edmundojhooker wrote:Wow! Can anyone give any hint of where those pics of the girls in Madrid can be found? I'm getting crazy trying to find them...they don't look exactly locked and sad.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Edmundojhooker on Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:08 am

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Edmundojhooker wrote:Wow! Can anyone give any hint of where those pics of the girls in Madrid can be found? I'm getting crazy trying to find them...they don't look exactly locked and sad.

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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby krull on Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:36 pm

The latest edition of Ana Rosa talks about Torbe's girlfriend "Susy Blue" receiving a letter from him in prison:

http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 80031.html

She was in a recent bukkake on the site before Torbe was jailed. Someone alleges that she wants to take over Putalocura and associated websites and that she is "betraying" Torbe:

http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 80033.html

She has apparently sent Torbe's letter to 260 people that attended the bukkakes. Who knows if there is truth to the claims or not.

According to these articles, the judge makes a decision on whether or not to bail Torbe tomorrow, I'm going to guess that he won't be released, but I am happy to be wrong...

[edit] Seems like betrayal is an opinion of one of the presenters... The article about Torbe's letter has been removed for some reason, but you can still see it in the Google cache...

[edit 2]The guy the Seville police arrested has been charged and bailed:

http://sevilla.abc.es/sevilla/sevi-qued ... ticia.html

Apparently according to other articles, he has mental problems...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby krull on Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:59 pm

I was wondering why 'El Espanol' hadn't done a piece on the arrest of the 47 year old, they added it to an article about the crimes Torbe supposedly committed against TP1, extra propaganda!

http://www.elespanol.com/espana/2016080 ... 270_0.html

Gotta love that headline, he offered to do bukkake and gloryhole with every girl he took on! Most of this has already been reported in the papers early on when the news first broke, that TP1 claimed she was drugged and raped in front of the camera, except this goes into more detail. She claims another woman fed her shots and talked to her about being on PL, and ended up sending photos of her naked and said she would do webcam but only if her face wasn't shown. She never turned up for the interview and then was harassed with several calls and was told she could do a scene with her boyfriend but she refused. She got several calls again until she agreed to an appointment. She then claims Torbe threatened to show her photos in public if she didn't sleep with him and then he raped her, paid her €200 for it and told her to meet him again and also asked her to record the bukkake and gloryhole videos.

This is where it gets even more ridiculous.. at the new meeting she was forced to consume marijuana and her hands were tied up, then another girl penetrated her with a dildo and then Torbe joined in and told her to swallow his cum or he'd send her photos to her family. All of this she claims BEFORE she recorded the viral video of her with the T-shirt and that it was a present for De Gea. Then of course people saw the video and told her and she told her father and that's when they went to the police.

Ok so once again, Torbe is teetotal, doesn't drink, smoke or touch any drugs, and the police found no trace of any drugs during their searches of various buildings. IF she had drugs in her system, then it's likely she took them herself prior to this meeting. Again, raping anyone on camera let alone a 17 year old is rubbish. Torbe has had sex with thousands of women, why risk all of this for a single underage girl? It makes no sense at all. He rapes her and then asks her if she wants to do bukkake/gloryhole..? Really? It makes even less sense when you consider the fake DNI which what a surprise, this article failed to mention. If this girl was forced to do all these things.. why did she even need a DNI? If Torbe knew she was, 17 why did she even bother to submit him any ID? Did she talk to her boyfriend about any of this, after Torbe apparently said she could record a video with him? Surely she would mention it. Who was the other girl? Who was the woman that first met with her? Lots of questions here... Also we know she has already lied, as she told the police that Torbe had 17 year olds coming from Ukraine, which is absolute bollocks!

No, it just sounds like a story she made up to justify why the video appeared to her father and of course he wants to believe his daughter doesn't have sex or drink/do drugs at her age but obviously according to the media, 17 year old girls are incapable of telling anything else other than the truth...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:34 pm

Already in russian....but why they wrote "also russian girls"? They all were ucranians.
http://www.dw.com/ru/%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80 ... a-19443311
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Am0rIn0 on Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:40 pm

because most journalists all over the world are a bunch of paid and dependent liars.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Dr Proctor on Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:48 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:Already in russian....but why they wrote "also russian girls"? They all were ucranians.
http://www.dw.com/ru/%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80 ... a-19443311

This is what happens when you have Russians working in Google. Very very good translation.
Investigative Spanish authorities are investigating a case of forcing Ukrainians and the Russians to participate in the filming of pornographic material on one of the studios in Madrid and prostitution. The case received wide publicity. As it passes Nacho Allende, a local actor and director, specializing in the production of porn, his partner - Ukrainian businessman *** M. assistant and Spanish - Ukrainian Lyudmila C. The names of foreigners under investigation in accordance with the law of the country were not disclosed. Allende after his arrest in custody, and the citizens of Ukraine released pending trial. They are not allowed to leave the territory of Spain.

"Business cooperation"
As told DW representative of the Spanish police, "business relationship" between the director Nacho Allende and Ukrainian entrepreneur began a summer 2015. According to him, *** M., from time to time come to Spain, he ordered Allende certain subjects and supplying young women - Ukrainians and Russians.

Russians and Ukrainians were forced to act in porn films in Spain
Allende, for its part, organized the admission of women in Madrid, he was looking for the filming of the Spanish partners and engaged in direct production of pornographic films. Finished products are distributed in Ukraine, Russia and other countries.
Travel, stay and employment of women in Spain paid for Ukrainians, he is paid a fee to the director and cameraman, said a police spokesman. Women for shooting received a total of 3000 euros, and director - 7000 for each footage plot. The money came from the bank account of ***. in Hong Kong, so the investigators believe that it is, inter alia, "on money in Spain of capital of dubious origin." So involved in the case are accused of committing a crime, and even in the field of finance.

In Spain, in order to become movie stars

According to the police, hired for a trip to Spain for 7-10 days women were not informed about the nature of work they have to perform. In a telephone conversation with his friends Allende acknowledged that women before the trip cheated - said that they will appear in the prestigious paintings, become movie stars, and then waiting for them a brilliant career. The director, whose phone was tapped by the police a few months, complained that "such deception makes it difficult to work."

Police

Police said that women from Russia and Ukraine did not know what they will do in Spain
Police said that the woman, usually experiencing financial difficulties at home, arrived in Madrid in high spirits. Here they fell into the hands of Ludmila S., who was responsible for their accommodation, feeding, protection from outsiders, as well as engaged in "moral training" future "actresses" are not aware of what they will encounter. Lyudmila S. also served as translator during the filming of Allende.

"Hard Porn" and prostitution

When asked why the companions preferred to bring women from afar, and did not use, for example, local professional women porn, a police spokesman said that it was done apparently because "on subjects commissioned by Ukrainian, not easy to find the performers in Spain: they either reject or require too high fees. " After all, it was a very "hard scenes, dehumanizing and can adversely affect the mental and physical health of the participants shooting."
According to the police, it is, for example, a scene involving a dozen women and men. The investigation also know that Ukrainian and Russian women are often reluctant to participate in such scenes: "Some of them happened hysterical, others became ill." Nevertheless, the director and his assistant persevered. They blackmailed participating deprivation of earnings survey and demanded money back for the trip to Spain. In the end, the woman agreed, the source said the DW, but "to stand shooting, drinking alcohol proposed by him in large numbers."
CONTEXT

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The investigation focuses on the fact that some women Allende demanded the provision of sexual services - for yourself and your friends. However, he explained that the provision of such services stipulated in the contract and is required to check the "artistic ability" member surveys. Sex services offered mainly to athletes. So, a woman at the request of Allende once were forced to serve three players, "athletic" team from Bilbao, told the police.
Charges against defendants
"The production of pornographic films, as well as voluntary prostitution is not punishable in Spain", - explained DW Ricardo Luis Garcia, a member of the Madrid Bar Association. Therefore, the case accused persons involved mainly in "forcing women to participate in the filming and the provision of sexual services", that is, to engage in prostitution.
All these are serious crimes, the accused can be punished with imprisonment for 5-10 years, he stated the lawyer. He added that "in recent years, demand for pornography in Spain decreased, and therefore its local steel producers to seek financing abroad."
For his part, lawyer Maria del Pilar Vazquez, an employee of the public Center for Victims of Sexual Assault (CAVAS), said the DW, that cases of coercion to participate in the pornography business are not typical for Spain. "The trouble is those who have been recruited in the Ukraine and Russia, in that they did not know the Spanish reality and were under constant pressure Thus, these women were not able to ask for help or the police or to the public.", - Summed up Vazquez outcome.


At least this article more factual then other Spanish ones.
But
What Monro was doing in the studio a next day? *** body guards forced her to come to see the video and take selfies. Also the next shoot she was forced to smile and giggle and then to do it again - and after that she came AGAIN for even bigger once. And before her first bukkake she went shopping. What a load of total BS. Also it said that most of girls would not do it for 3k. Ohh super face palm. 3k is very very high price. Usually actresses got payed much less. I hope Torbe gets out and start a lawsuits against every single news paper and source that talk BS about him. I'm talking few millions of EUR lawsuits. In USA you must have a strong evidence before you can even publish any claims. Looks like in Spain no such laws exists and you can publish any BS.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby krull on Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:37 pm

Thankfully just the Russian version of Deutsche Welle, a German newspaper rather than actual Russian news. It's pretty much a repeat of the same horror stories relayed in the Spanish press, but some details are new. Here it talks about the girls coming to Spain to become movie stars and had no idea what "horrors" were to await them. Yes of course, makes sense... Elya failed at being a movie star the first time because she was deceived into filming porn, so she came back for a second attempt believing she would make it big this time and they tricked her again, that poor poor girl! :roll: Honestly it sounds like the police haven't a fucking clue what they're talking about.. "not easy to find the performers in Spain: they either reject or require too high fees." Uhhh.. accept for the hundreds of Spanish girls who performed bukkakes over the past decade or so, dipshit!

Am0rIn0 wrote:because most journalists all over the world are a bunch of paid and dependent liars.


Ain't that the fucking truth, never mind the facts, just whatever bullshit sells the papers and makes the money, unbiased journalism doesn't exist, to my knowledge it never has. I still can't believe that the Spanish police can actively leak information from an open investigation to the press before any trial has been set.. If that happened in my country, the officers would be sacked and probably fined! I hope when Torbe gets out finally he sues everyone that talked shit... the press, the police.. even the fucking judiciary if they allow this kind of crap, ridiculous!

I wonder if it is time to leak to the press some of the photos of the "locked up" girls in Madrid, faces pixelated or something...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:59 pm

krull wrote:Thankfully just the Russian version of Deutsche Welle, a German newspaper rather than actual Russian news....

I wonder if it is time to leak to the press some of the photos of the "locked up" girls in Madrid, faces pixelated or something...

Where ,f*ck,they were locked ? I read some comments on PL,most of girls did more then 1 bukkake. I am not sure,but I think,it was Katy who just did one and after refused to do others. But nobody forced her to do that she doesn't want...If it's really was so horrible,nobody will shoot more then one scene for PL...
About spanish girls....after crisis you can find much cheaper girls,Torbe was telling in his web that he has never ever recieved so many emails with requests "wanna be porn actress"...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby krull on Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:11 pm

I was being sarcastic Olga, that's why I said "locked up" with quotation marks! it's a mockery of the press claims you understand? The locked up claim is what the press got from what the police said about Katy from their "report", but she herself said that she was not locked up:

Esta empleada no le entregó en la primera noche un juego de llaves por no disponer del mismo y le cerró la puerta por motivos de seguridad.

Tras participar en el primer rodaje, la joven dijo haberse sentido humillada y rechazó participar en las otras dos escenas planificadas en los días siguientes.

Durante esos días, “TP10” entró y salió de dichas oficinas ubicadas en el centro de Madrid, dando paseos tranquilamente por las calles de la capital, hasta que se produjo el registro policial.


From: http://okdiario.com/investigacion/2016/ ... aba-266787

I'm saying we should send that kind of photo of Eva to the press but with faces pixelated...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Am0rIn0 on Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:23 pm

krull wrote:
Ain't that the fucking truth, never mind the facts, just whatever bullshit sells the papers and makes the money, unbiased journalism doesn't exist, to my knowledge it never has. I still can't believe that the Spanish police can actively leak information from an open investigation to the press before any trial has been set.. If that happened in my country, the officers would be sacked and probably fined! I hope when Torbe gets out finally he sues everyone that talked shit... the press, the police.. even the fucking judiciary if they allow this kind of crap, ridiculous!



Exactly, nobody is neutral, they write what gives them a maximum of sales, clicks and media bosses/lead jounalists sit together in think tanks with powerful people of politics, companies and banks. Aspen Institute and Atlantik Brücke for example.

If they can get some leaks for cash they will use such sources.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:36 pm

krull wrote:.... saying we should send that kind of photo of Eva to the press but with faces pixelated...

To close girls faces and send to press...
Yes,I read about Katy....but journalists constantly repeat that girls were forced,abused,locked and they didn't know what they will do in Spain....

http://www.proximainform.net/content/news/96/49550
Btw,the same article but in different russian web....There is possibility to leave comments here:::
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Dr Proctor on Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:22 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:
krull wrote:.... saying we should send that kind of photo of Eva to the press but with faces pixelated...

To close girls faces and send to press...
Yes,I read about Katy....but journalists constantly repeat that girls were forced,abused,locked and they didn't know what they will do in Spain....

http://www.proximainform.net/content/news/96/49550
Btw,the same article but in different russian web....There is possibility to leave comments here:::


One of her comments on the photo in PL washroom was "Illusion of lies 2: Total shitness" But other photo commented with "I miss Spain so much".
BTW all that Katy ran away turned out to be she went for a walk and got lost:)
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby Dr Proctor on Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:30 pm

krull wrote:No, it just sounds like a story she made up to justify why the video appeared to her father and of course he wants to believe his daughter doesn't have sex or drink/do drugs at her age but obviously according to the media, 17 year old girls are incapable of telling anything else other than the truth...


This is the easiest way out. This play card predates dinosaurs. What she is going to say: "Dad I'm a whore I drink and do drugs" Hahahah. No "I'm a innocent little angel, I have't even kiss a boy yet".
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby krull on Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:05 pm

I just can't get my head around it, she tells the police she had a fake ID and then the story is still "Torbe raped a minor". Police probably put her claims at a "high credibility" you know, like they did with TP3's story about the footballers. I can tell you, if that actually makes it to court, De Gea lawyers will destroy her and take her for everything she's got. I wouldn't be surprised if the police actually put TP1 up to saying her video was for him to strengthen the case. Well the truth will out at some point, we had a famous case here where a famous television personality was arrested and charged with two counts of rape, a year later he was acquitted at trial because there were several holes in the stories of the alleged victims. Despite this being clear in Torbe's case, the judge is still dithering over the details and keeping Torbe in prison whilst allowing the police to tell the press every fucking detail under the sun. The really sad thing is, that such incidents weaken the cases for actual rape victims, making it increasingly hard to get a conviction in what is already a difficult crime to prove. Torbe became a paedophile and a pimp within the space of one year, yeah I believe that like I believe in Father Christmas...

Am0rIn0 wrote:Exactly, nobody is neutral, they write what gives them a maximum of sales, clicks and media bosses/lead jounalists sit together in think tanks with powerful people of politics, companies and banks. Aspen Institute and Atlantik Brücke for example.

If they can get some leaks for cash they will use such sources.


It's funny when the Spanish articles talk about bukkake as "hard scenes", they want to get a load of Kink's catalogue... "American and foreign girls were deceived and gang raped on camera" :roll:
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