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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby stelvio on Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:59 pm



So wait for her model agency (that instandly fires a model who mixes up whoring and porn shooting :roll: :wink: ) announcing her availability at Paris during that time as they did for Sofia Like. That's just ridiculous.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:21 pm

she is officially announced for 1.5. in budapest. so she is escorting before... great, as her test in beginning of may (in 10 days) will not be worth the paper it is written on, because of incubation times.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby jeanmarc on Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:22 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:she is officially announced for 1.5. in budapest. so she is escorting before... great, as her test in beginning of may (in 10 days) will not be worth the paper it is written on, because of incubation times.


As I said before, we use protection. Katrin is a great girl btw.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:37 pm

jeanmarc wrote:
Am0rIn0 wrote:she is officially announced for 1.5. in budapest. so she is escorting before... great, as her test in beginning of may (in 10 days) will not be worth the paper it is written on, because of incubation times.


As I said before, we use protection. Katrin is a great girl btw.



So your job is to control every interaction between an escort and client and you even check with own eyes if rubber sits perfect and that there is no bareback sex for extra cash. Good to know.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby jeanmarc on Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:27 am

Am0rIn0 wrote:
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Am0rIn0 wrote:she is officially announced for 1.5. in budapest. so she is escorting before... great, as her test in beginning of may (in 10 days) will not be worth the paper it is written on, because of incubation times.


As I said before, we use protection. Katrin is a great girl btw.



So your job is to control every interaction between an escort and client and you even check with own eyes if rubber sits perfect and that there is no bareback sex for extra cash. Good to know.


Well I can return it to you. As I said, you can't control every interaction between actors/actresses and random people outside this business either. There's an inherent risk to this industry, and from my multi-year experience with being a client, you're deluding yourself if you think it's so easy to fuck an escort without condom.

Then again, you know as well as me that 90% of all porn actresses escort at one or more points of their careers (I'm surely low on my estimate either). They're not even trying to hide it anymore. You just can't act all shocked about this, just accept it for what it is. It's 2016, that ship has sailed.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby stelvio on Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:31 pm

jeanmarc wrote:Then again, you know as well as me that 90% of all porn actresses escort at one or more points of their careers (I'm surely low on my estimate either). They're not even trying to hide it anymore. You just can't act all shocked about this, just accept it for what it is. It's 2016, that ship has sailed.


That's pretty much out of question and not part of this discussion. Even the most naive fanboy should have learned that almost all girls in porn are sex workers in all kind of varieties. Which includes whoring. Not a big deal. And Am0rIn0 is far away from being that kind of a fanboy.

The problem begins with mixing up the varieties. The problem gets even bigger when you have the same persons manage the girls' porn and whoring work and forces the mixing. That's just snowballing out of control.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby Am0rIn0 on Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:17 pm

90% is a wishful thinking. There are lots of girls who try porn for a couple of weeks and than stop and never start escort. Also lots of girls choose porn over escort because they don't want to fuck every loser with 50 bucks in his pocket. From all girls i shot around 30% did escort at one point.

Well I can return it to you. As I said, you can't control every interaction between actors/actresses and random people outside this business either.


Nope you actually can't return it. In porn there is always a third party involved. Producers, agencies, actors and doctors.

In escort, there is only a prostitute and client behind a closed door.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby jeanmarc on Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:33 pm

stelvio wrote:Even the most naive fanboy should have learned that almost all girls in porn are sex workers in all kind of varieties. Which includes whoring. Not a big deal. And Am0rIn0 is far away from being that kind of a fanboy.

Am0rIn0 wrote:90% is a wishful thinking. [...] From all girls i shot around 30% did escort at one point.

You guys should talk together I think :mrgreen: Amorino you should know that there's a difference between what a chick says and the actual truth :wink: If you really believe the 30% figure there's nothing I can do for you :shock:


stelvio wrote:The problem begins with mixing up the varieties. The problem gets even bigger when you have the same persons manage the girls' porn and whoring work and forces the mixing. That's just snowballing out of control.

Please enlighten me, where's the problem in having the same managers for both? I don't know that this exists right now, just curious :mrgreen:


Am0rIn0 wrote:Also lots of girls choose porn over escort because they don't want to fuck every loser with 50 bucks in his pocket.

Sooo, we're finally getting to the bottom of this, right? You actually think you're better because you're holding a fucking camera lol

Let me tell you one thing, girls will not fuck a client bareback simply from something called basic self-preservation. She doesn't know the dude, why would she do that?
In the porn business, people circumvent that restriction with the illusion of pre-selection and testing people once per month. Because no one wants to see condoms in porn, right?
But that's what it is, an illusion, because the truth is that you actually have control of your actress only from the moment you meet her until the moment she leaves your place. That's all. Other than that, you have absolutely no idea who she meets and what she does, regardless of whether she gets paid or not. Same goes for your male talents.
And I repeat, people in porn have way, way more unprotected sex than I (and every other client) do.

By the way, lots of girls choose escorting over porn because they don't want to fuck every loser with a camera, without protection, and have their face on the internet for the rest of their lives. :mrgreen: Oh and besides, they make way, way more money as an escort :p
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby Am0rIn0 on Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:18 pm

If you really believe the 30% figure there's nothing I can do for you


I only believe what I can see and verify, this is 30% of models I shot have been listed online as escort at least once. So I would estimate maximum 50% of them maybe did prostitution once.

Sooo, we're finally getting to the bottom of this, right? You actually think you're better because you're holding a fucking camera lol


It seems you think this, otherwise you wouldn't bring it on table. Anyway who says that we always hold a camera?

There are such regular moments in porn where a girl is that horny and into you she fucks you before or after a scene in the shower or sucks your cock during break. Or some shy newbys who are afraid to do BG vaginal, but you turn that HJ, BJ or even solo scene into a BG vaginal scene... without extra cash.

I could already write a book about it, stories most normal dudes never would believe. Everyone who works with those girls, who has balls and a bit of charme can sing a song about.

called basic self-preservation


Don't overestimate this, some protitutes are self destructive because of low selfesteem.

She doesn't know the dude, why would she do that?


For some bucks extra, there are lots of wealthy punters out there. Officially of course no escort does bareback... never ever.


By the way, lots of girls choose escorting over porn because they don't want to fuck every loser with a camera, without protection, and have their face on the internet for the rest of their lives. :mrgreen: Oh and besides, they make way, way more money as an escort :p


That loser with camera can still fuck them if he wants for 50 bucks, so it doesnt really matter if he is a loser or not... :mrgreen: and what if that loser is more into sensual blowjobs and swallows which he gets from most escorts anyway?! :mrgreen:
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby Robin on Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:21 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:Even Amarna complained in her blog that was not possible to get any info about company or your co-workers on set. Agency sends you just location, time and how much money you will get for a shoot.

That's because agencies in Europe are used to dealing with submissive girls who hardly speak and does porn just for money... It's "a problem and a pain in the ass" for them when appear some smart girl like Amarna who does porn not just for money, also for pleasure and because love this job, who takes care of her career and image and obviously wants to know days before shooting who will be the actor, company, kind of shooting, the scenario, etc because she select only those shootings, scenarios, companies and actors what she likes. I'm totally agree with her in this point. European agencies makes good job and services for all in this biz, but a bit better it would be appreciated. Amarna is not the only girl I heard complaining about this lack of info about shooting when tried to ask for...
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby jeanmarc on Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:49 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:
Sooo, we're finally getting to the bottom of this, right? You actually think you're better because you're holding a fucking camera lol

It seems you think this, otherwise you wouldn't bring it on table.

I bring this up because you imply that I'm a loser, hence you think you're better than me. I thought this was clear but apparently your English is not so good?
By the way, I don't care you think that, it seems to be a sentiment shared by most porn people anyway. Which is strange given that they are often victims of that very thing, you'd think they'd be more open minded :)


Am0rIn0 wrote:Anyway who says that we always hold a camera?

There are such regular moments in porn where a girl is that horny and into you she fucks you before or after a scene in the shower or sucks your cock during break. Or some shy newbys who are afraid to do BG vaginal, but you turn that HJ, BJ or even solo scene into a BG vaginal scene... without extra cash.

I could already write a book about it, stories most normal dudes never would believe. Everyone who works with those girls, who has balls and a bit of charme can sing a song about.

Haha so yeah, you really think you're special :lol: Dude, I've also received a bunch of "special" treatment over the years... I don't feel the need to bring it up. It's cool that you get a self-esteem boost from it though :)
By the way, I don't see how that has anything to do with our previous discussion.


Am0rIn0 wrote:
called basic self-preservation


Don't overestimate this, some prostitutes are self destructive because of low self-esteem.

She doesn't know the dude, why would she do that?


For some bucks extra, there are lots of wealthy punters out there. Officially of course no escort does bareback... never ever.

Dude, I know it exists (mostly in Germany by the way), but it's way less frequent than you think. Especially with porn actresses that are especially careful with that sort of stuff. That's also why porn girls often don't make the best escorts, they're usually way less open minded (not referring to bareback in particular, open mindedness can be a lot of things).


Am0rIn0 wrote:That loser with camera can still fuck them if he wants for 50 bucks, so it doesn't really matter if he is a loser or not... :mrgreen: and what if that loser is more into sensual blowjobs and swallows which he gets from most escorts anyway?! :mrgreen:

You stopped making sense dude. You want to compare dick sizes? I've been swallowed by over 100 girls you know, you're not going to impress me.
But anyway, it's good, see? We're both paying them after all... we're not that different.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby Am0rIn0 on Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:27 pm

I bring this up because you imply that I'm a loser, hence you think you're better than me.


It was a general statement, so no need to feel adressed. :wink: Btw. I also book an escort from time to time if she looks stunning for my taste.

But anyway, it's good, see? We're both paying them after all... we're not that different.


It now becomes philosophic, but as man you always pay somehow for women. Either with your nerves, presents, time and/or money. But in porn we rather invest. :lol:

Anyway at the end of the day only thing that counts is that you got what you wanted.

With that written I conclude this debate.
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

Postby jeanmarc on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:31 am

Am0rIn0 wrote:It was a general statement, so no need to feel addressed. :wink: Btw. I also book an escort from time to time if she looks stunning for my taste.

Well, I'm glad that your post has a more positive tone. I'm not here to make enemies.


Am0rIn0 wrote:It now becomes philosophic, but as man you always pay somehow for women. Either with your nerves, presents, time and/or money.

No truer thing was ever written on this forum. Me, I meet escorts for the variety, the uncommon beauty and, sometimes, for the performance :)


Am0rIn0 wrote:But in porn we rather invest. :lol:

Very true.
I know that's the difference between you and me, you make some money back whereas mine is "lost". I've been considering shooting scenes as I'm a partner for a US porn website. I'm just not sure I can get good return on investment if I pay say 1000e for a scene (that is, including girl fee, hotel, cameras/lights, make up artist maybe? etc...).
I could put those scenes on that website and also on clips4sale, but I really have no idea how much I can get back from that. Because paying 1000 bucks for one girl when I know I can get 6 to 8 with the same amount as a "regular" client... that's a difficult choice to make.
I even got some footage already but unfortunately not the "rights" to distribute it hehe
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Re: Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

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