ARENA

[Philanderer81]

At first I didn't give a shit. Then I took PWs side and then after seeing the SMS' where PW blocked Scarlett Lee working with Sineplex I got pissed off, and I am now more inclined to believe some of these claims against him. Also, he's not professional because he admitted fucking Aisha, for example, dozens of times (presumably for money) but only made 3 or 4 movies with her, which as a fan of Eurobabes is annoying as fuck to think about. That's my two cents as an outside observer

[makker]

At first I didn't give a shit. Then I took PWs side and then after seeing the SMS' where PW blocked Scarlett Lee working with Sineplex I got pissed off, and I am now more inclined to believe some of these claims against him.

Same with me. At first I really liked PW and admired what he did and ignored the naysayers. But after seeing his obviously lies and manipulations, the way he treats other people (girls, actors, agents, producers and above all his customers) I finally saw how he is in real life. People need to wake up.

[erotic_dude]

Really interesting reading about the various comments on PW.

How did he react to Robot's decision of not letting him put any dates on any uploads or bragging about being the first.....He has left the forum. Typical reactions of a spoilt kid. He can't have his way on this forum now and therefore it's useless for him.

He runs his production company as a one man band. Either he is a control freak or he is tight.

In any case it's a shame because he does have a brand but unfortunately he is self destructing. I have mentioned in my earlier posts that there are models that remain anally exclusive to him even today. Jenny Appach for example. It's bad for us viewers but if the model agrees he can't be blamed. But it's his ego that wants him to project himself as the "first" even though the model in question might have several scenes in circulation.

[pplolo]

i wish i could close this topic too.....

[Am0rIn0]

pplolo, stop placing your shitloads in every corner and first learn how to clean your ass before you want to clean threads.

[cindyloumerican]

The Linda Sweet incident clearly show the great pierre caught in a lie. Time and time again Ricardo has been saying that pierre is a fraud only to be shut down, abused by pierres minion and banned by Pierres influence. Ricardo patiently try to come back and prove to everyone that he is not lying again only to be met by opposition with a lot of name calling from pierres minion. Ricardo presented very well his proof and argumentt with little name calling and using swear word. The other side is calling Ricardo every name on the book. Ricardo did not back down from the big pierre. Now the light has come and the lies iare exposed, guess who leaves? Our honest Pierre.

What sickens me about this whole situation is Pierre who obviously the more influential in the industry is stepping on people like Ricardo who is just trying to make it on his own. After learning the trade everyone is entitled to do what he wants. When people work for microsoft, intel, ibm or google and leave they (big companies)don't leave a campaign of negative publicity against a former employee. This situation likens it to david and goliath. Glad goliath is slayed.

Funny now everyone is accusing me of being udo or Ricardo or Ricardos friend. I don't know or never followed Ricardo through his career but this back and forth bickering picked my interest. My opinion Ricardo is telling the truth and I am glad he exposed a fraud. Check my IP I am in north america.

[Philanderer81]

These exclusive contracts are fucking destroying the business. Porn clearly doesn't work like other markets and trying to create scarcity where there isn't any is fucking idiotic. In a saturated market, like porn, then you've gotta work on your brand and customer satisifaction. Indeed, in a real market the EU would have intervened by now to break up collusion between agencies and producers but that ain't gonna happen here

[makker]

Pplolo is clearly a Woodman identity or someone who still believes he is god. Just ignore.
Anyway less and less people want to work with PW because of his behaviour (see how he pissed of Juliana, his Russian agent). In the end it means no more supply of fresh new girls for him (the life blood of any porn company).

[Philanderer81]

These exclusive contracts are fucking destroying the business. Porn clearly doesn't work like other markets and trying to create scarcity where there isn't any is fucking idiotic. In a saturated market, like porn, then you've gotta work on your brand and customer satisifaction. Indeed, in a real market the EU would have intervened by now to break up collusion between agencies and producers but that ain't gonna happen here

One more thing, in a real market if PW went bust other companies could buy his assets (i.e., his unreleased scenes) but somehow I don't think that would happen in porn. Which would be a shame because I like his interview style and he does have a huge vault of unreleased material of girls we'd all love to see get fucked

[makker]

Yes, that's true. I wish more companies do real life casting interview in English (with a translator) like PW does. It makes a girl much more interesting if you know her background.

[UDO]

These exclusive contracts are fucking destroying the business. Porn clearly doesn't work like other markets and trying to create scarcity where there isn't any is fucking idiotic. In a saturated market, like porn, then you've gotta work on your brand and customer satisifaction. Indeed, in a real market the EU would have intervened by now to break up collusion between agencies and producers but that ain't gonna happen here

One more thing, in a real market if PW went bust other companies could buy his assets (i.e., his unreleased scenes) but somehow I don't think that would happen in porn. Which would be a shame because I like his interview style and he does have a huge vault of unreleased material of girls we'd all love to see get fucked

Regarding his unreleased scenes :

Most of them are only intervieuws up to girls getting naked. Than camera stops, and starts the 1-2 hours seduction-manipulation part of the model with big promises of building a big pornstar image, website, webchat, lots of Playboy style, soft works, billions of $$$$$$$$$$$$, showing pictures of nice places from around the world, The money he has in his pockket ( min. 10000 Euro cash), his expansive watch, until he see the girl start getting wet, or just tired, and capitulate Or just become fucking angry on the agent whom put her in this situation, cannot easy handle. If the girl is smart enough he will start to proove her how fucking stupid she is. If she's enough stupid, he will only smile at her, telling her she's uniqly smart, but the same time humiliate her in french what she can't understand. The translator has to feel the game he does, and confirm all his expressions, manifestations.
It's just like a hypnosis to the girl, whom will only realise what happened, when leaving the casting couch. So at the end, from 10 casting intervieuws he has only 2-3 with initiation (sex), and only 6-7 with signed model release from all. But for sure 2-3 complaints from the girls in case, or they're bf-s, parents, pimps, etc. all theese complaints usually are finding not the master, but his assistant, translator in case, creating him a great image in his living place, hometown, when he's already after few hundreds of castings organised.
When he claims on his forum about a girl he fucked, only he don't want to show the sex part yet, or only later, or he can't show it, this means there is no sex with that girl 70%, or it's just a shit he better don't show ( the girl is crying, complaining, or his dick is showing 6.30 o'clock.20%, the rest is because of some other reason hidden- using the girl for other business related actions, and wanting to keep a good relationship with her, by not showing theese intimate moments of sexual confess.
He's jus a Shell game player whom refuse to pay and respect his shills http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_game
This is the most apt metaphore I can find for his work...

[pplolo]

unfortunately i have been here for much longer here than anybody here pretending having inside knowledge of what happens
and i can tell you i saw the dramatic downfall in terms of quality post and atmosphere here.
Your posts have nothing to do with sharing knowledge about new scenes or posting inside pictures of what happens BTS.
It is just petty,narrow minded personal arguments about personal feelings inappropriate on this public place.

My view is People comes here during their past time;not to be bothered by these endless and meaningless reactions.

Now if the admin(s) editorial line is it should not be moderated to keep it cool,you would be dumb not to continue
given you enjoy doing it.

[makker]

Well, this is the arena, so in this thread we can argue without moderation. In other threads I can understand your frustation but it is because some people inside the industry (not me) are misbehaving.

[makker]

UDO requested me to post the following post. This is an exception of course but he asked to do so because of his inability to post a in time reply. To be sure, I will mention again I am NOT Ricardo!

UDO wrote:
Regarding his unreleased scenes :

Most of them are only intervieuws up to girls getting naked. Than camera stops, and starts the 1-2 hours seduction-manipulation part of the model with big promises of building a big pornstar image, website, webchat, lots of Playboy style, soft works, billions of $$$$$$$$$$$$, showing pictures of nice places from around the world, The money he has in his pockket ( min. 10000 Euro cash), his expansive watch, until he see the girl start getting wet, or just tired, and capitulate Or just become fucking angry on the agent whom put her in this situation, cannot easy handle. If the girl is smart enough he will start to proove her how fucking stupid she is. If she's enough stupid, he will only smile at her, telling her she's uniqly smart, but the same time humiliate her in french what she can't understand. The translator has to feel the game he does, and confirm all his expressions, manifestations.
It's just like a hypnosis to the girl, whom will only realise what happened, when leaving the casting couch. So at the end, from 10 casting intervieuws he has only 2-3 with initiation (sex), and only 6-7 with signed model release from all. But for sure 2-3 complaints from the girls in case, or they're bf-s, parents, pimps, etc. all theese complaints usually are finding not the master, but his assistant, translator in case, creating him a great image in his living place, hometown, when he's already after few hundreds of castings organised.
When he claims on his forum about a girl he fucked, only he don't want to show the sex part yet, or only later, or he can't show it, this means there is no sex with that girl 70%, or it's just a shit he better don't show ( the girl is crying, complaining, or his dick is showing 6.30 o'clock.20%, the rest is because of some other reason hidden- using the girl for other business related actions, and wanting to keep a good relationship with her, by not showing theese intimate moments of sexual confess.
He's jus a Shell game player whom refuse to pay and respect his shills http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_game
This is the most apt metaphore I can find for his work...

[LEQUIPE]

How funny to read all this.

This guy Ricardo had arguments here not only with Pierre Woodman but also with Cayenne Klein and other people here. But now, reading the previous posts, he is the beautiful little angel chased by big devil PW...

The previous post is just a good subject of how to put someone in the mud.

If you a are porn casting agent. You are not handsome, you have to fuck a girl in the ass just 2, 3 or 4 hours after your 1st meeting you can't just talk to her about last movie she saw, flowers she likes and the beauty of her dress. It's obvious, if the girl is worth it, that you has to make her dream, make her "see" what she can get by making the big step. You can call it manipulation but it's just what everybody does in a commercial world. If you have to sell jewellery, dresses, shoes, cars, houses, whatever, you do the same : make the person dream.
You talk about hypnosis ? Then if this was true PW would have been in jail since a long time ago because money or not some girls would have went to the police. And it seems he is not the one who has been in jail... (I don't know why Ricardo has been in jail and I have no appreciation about that).
Once again I have nothing to see with Pierre Woodman, I don't know him, I was member of his site for 2 months because I like Angel Hott a lot but I don't like anal and all hardcore stuff, so his productions are not for me. Believe me or not.
Is it me or many girls had become pornstars after working with Pierre Woodman ? Too many to name. But you just focus on putting the guy like a manipulator.
By the way, if Pierre Woodman is a devil, how does others work ? When you are a porn casting director do behave like an angel ? Do you tell the girl : "Ok, listen. We will fuck you has much as we can. We will get your ass, cover your face with semen, slap your face, slap your bottom, call you "Bitch", call you "Whore", sooner or later your friends and family will know about this, they will see the videos, we will not care about your feelings and more important we will give you a little money because you are unkown. Maybe you will become a pornstar, but that's just maximum 3 girls by year and only then you will earn a lot of money. If you don't become a porn star you will go back to your boring job, hoping for many years not to be recognize in the street, hoping your boyfriend will never know about this. Are you ok with that Honeybunny ?"

This thing ARENA, shows the dark side of some people, only interested in stupid fights. That's not the subject of this forum. This is lame.
By the way, between the Ricardo/Pierre Woodman fight, I just don't care who is right and who is wrong. Who is the lier and who is not. Who is the good or the bad guy : THE TWO OF YOU HAVE GONE TOO FAR.