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Postby paroxysmia on Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:42 pm

No, all porn movies in France are not with condom, just mainstream porn.

In France, big companies are just 2 or 3 and Dorcel is the bigger one which has the most important exposition in media.

To survive, they need to sale their films.

French TV group Canal + broadcasts porn movies on hertzian network (crypted) therefore their schedule of conditions are very strong: condom, no creampie, rare swallowing, no fisting etc...

So you get boring but porn-chic movies with condom. But all prods are not the same and pro-amat movies dont use condom and are more nasty.

In USA, there are 2 or 3 companies which use condom, surely Wicked or Vivid. Offen hetero mainstream porn... :lol:
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Postby dap-addict on Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:05 pm

paroxysmia wrote:French TV group Canal + broadcasts porn movies on hertzian network (crypted) therefore their schedule of conditions are very strong: condom, no creampie, rare swallowing, no fisting etc...

So to survive MD airs its porn films on TV?
And because of this they started to shoot also Czech and Magyar girls with condoms even when shooting in Prague/Budapest?
Since when?

:arrow: If so I will never even look at a MD catalogue again!
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Postby alexxx on Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:17 pm

paroxysmia wrote:No, all porn movies in France are not with condom, just mainstream porn.



I confirm. You are not legally obliged to shoot with condoms but if you want to release something in some pay-channel (Canal + or TPS) you have to follow this rule.
It's stupid but it's also true that TV pay the producer better than other dstribution channels.

But some indies are not using condoms and, for eg., shooting creampies, deepthroating and fisting too (French like fisting a lot) and when they get the right girls (often is a mixed girl with "cappuccino" skin) they make valuable movies.
DP and cum are part of porn; DAP and swallows are for porn-stars!
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:51 pm

alexxx wrote:I confirm. You are not legally obliged to shoot with condoms but if you want to release something in some pay-channel (Canal + or TPS) you have to follow this rule.

Also if you shoot part of the scenes outside France? (like in Budapest)
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Postby kenbac on Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:45 am

This subject of condom use is very interesting and should probably have been a thread of it’s own.

I am a keen fan of Marc Dorcel and have alot of his films.
M D uses gorgeous babes, films in super sets and locations, dresses the stars in stylish clothes and offers story lines.
The main draw back is condom use.
But the condom use doesn’t appear to be 100%
I have always been curious about why the condoms.
I hope there is more information on this to come.
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Postby alexxx on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:43 pm

dap-addict wrote:
alexxx wrote:I confirm. You are not legally obliged to shoot with condoms but if you want to release something in some pay-channel (Canal + or TPS) you have to follow this rule.

Also if you shoot part of the scenes outside France? (like in Budapest)
:?


For sure you are not obliged to use it but after somebody in France couldn't distribute your movie because not healthyly corrrect :lol:
If you are an indie you don't care and you shoot without but if you represents the good and bad side of porn in a country you are obliged some rules.
DP and cum are part of porn; DAP and swallows are for porn-stars!
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Postby dap-addict on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:53 pm

alexxx wrote:because not healthyly corrrect :lol:

"healthyly correct"?
Instant tests are healthyly correct! More than condom use (combined with non condomized cum-shots) for sure.
But I know it doenst help to rund against the French Wall of Ignorance. :lol:
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Postby kokotek on Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:47 am

I just watched the movie. It was amazing.

All scenes are with condom!
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Postby dap-addict on Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:16 am

kokotek wrote:All scenes are with condom!

Thanks for the warning!
But that is what we are talking about all the time here. And It will shy a lot of Euro customers away for that film no matter how hot its cast. :cry:
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Postby superduper on Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:17 pm

But I read in an interview with Danielle Rogers that she thought condoms were useless and a waste of time and that proper tests were enough, because often when she was fucked by Randy Spears on set, especially during anal, even if they used double strength anal condoms, the condom would burst, and he might go through a few during a scene, which was a right pain and took all the energy out of the sex (some US companies insisted on condom use). So the protection of the condom during vigorous sex (performed by porn actors) was ineffectual, but say a normal person havi9ng sex in their private life, unless they were as powerful as a porn actor, the protection there would be okay, and a good idea, because a person there would not have STD tests whereas a porn actor or actress would.
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Postby cleopatrox on Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:19 pm

As viewer I will not buy this movie because there is condom use . It is honest.

On the other hand I understand, that some producers and performers want to use condoms in their films because they worry about STDs problems. We know about siphilis outbreak, we know, what happened with some performers. I read, that some performers got chlamydia, gonorrhea and other STDs in the porn set. The risk is real and consequences of unprotected sex are real.

I think we need to search the compromise. I think that producers need to give the choice for performers. It is not right, that Marc Dorcel went condom-only, because it is not the choice. If the producer want to let performers use condoms, this producer can work condom-optional.

I do not think, that all performers will start using condoms in all of their scenes. For example. One of the biggest companys in USA Vivid now is condom-optional. The contract star Monique Alexander work condom-only. Other star like Savanna Samson refused to use condoms in her films and her scenes. Adam and Eve. They have Carmen Luavana, who work only with condoms, but they have Bree Olson, who work without condoms.

Many performers not want to work with condoms, because they understand, that they work for pleasure of their fans. Porn is for fun. More risk - more fun. More fun - more fans. But more fans are necessary for this industry and every performer. I read many interviews of pornstars. Safety reasons are important but not most important for every performer. We all know about risks, but risks are everywhere.

I do not think that German girl Annette Schwarz , who work intensively in USA not worry about her health, but risk can not stop this brave girl to work without condoms almost in all of her scenes, make A2P, bareback gangbangs, DAP with anal creampie and other things.

She said on her website http://www.totallyannette.com/:
"of course you are never protected against sexual transmited disease if you fuck without condoms. I’m surgical nurse, so I’m really informed. I’m clear in my mind about what I’m doing. And I do most things for my own pleasure. Sex should be fun!"

American performer Ava Devine said: I love a good, fucking rock, cum-drippy dick," she says. "Fuck the rubber. Even though it's safe, that latex-rubber-lube-condom-tasting stuff. I want that fucking dick raw. I want you to feel all my crevices, all my tissue, all my wetness, my heat that's coming out of my holes. I want to feel every vein, every ridge on your cock. I want to feel your cum. I want to feel your pre-cum. I want to feel the wetness of my pussy slobbered all over your dick. I want to feel the self-lubricating juiciness of my asshole."

http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=25742
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Postby cleopatrox on Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:15 pm

I think it is very important, when performer honestly said, that she understand she is never been protected, when she fuck without condoms, but sex should be fun. She know risks and possible consequences, but she continue to take the risk and shoot without condoms for her and our pleasure. This is new film with Annette Schwarz. It will be interesting for gape lovers. It is not safe sex of "Dorcel Airlines". No one use condoms in this film. It is real present for fans with one of the best european stars Annette Schwarz.

http://julesjordanvideo.com/page/trailer/159/flv#trailer
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Postby dap-addict on Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:36 pm

alexxx wrote:But some indies are not using condoms and, for eg., shooting creampies, deepthroating and fisting too (French like fisting a lot) and when they get the right girls (often is a mixed girl with "cappuccino" skin) they make valuable movies.

Any info on good 100% non-condom hardcore anal flicks with mixed "capucchino" girls, alexxx?
Thanks! :)
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Postby dap-addict on Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:20 am

cleopatrox wrote:I think it is very important, when performer honestly said, that she understand she is never been protected, when she fuck without condoms, but sex should be fun. She know risks and possible consequences, but she continue to take the risk and shoot without condoms for her and our pleasure.

It seems that the risk is turning you really on, cleopatrox. :?
But actually condoms in porn are not really safe, too. Just read the Danielle Rogers interview and many interviews later. Condoms wouldnt even be safe if all cum-shots went into them in future - and as we all know they dont. Even not with Marc Dorcel productions.
We may juggle it around like we want frequent and instant tests combined with high responsibility of professionals in their off-set sex live has proofed less risky than a lot of other jobs.
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