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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby chris on Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:20 am

gapelover wrote:No, Wiska don't sign a contract and i am sure she's history for Sineplex.


Good for her and for the all true hardcore fans!
I do love to see Wiska in asstraffic,assholefever,dpfanatics,cumforcover,allinternal and in so many others sites and studios.
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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby chris on Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:39 am

gapelover wrote:You don't need to copy paste i read what Wiska wrote and i don't believe everything she said.


I believe her and not you of course!
I'm sure you have never go at Russia/Ukraine and you have never been in porn-movie shooting.You're just a porn fan and nothing more!
Anyone who has brain don't believe you anymore!!!

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16&start=195
Any girl will not write the truth about Sineplex because they work on this company and wish to continue to work! Sineplex removes often not leaving from St.-Petersburg though also payment small, but shootings every day and can remove one girl in several Sets in day! If I will write how many they pay to girls for set, you will laugh! The girl receives for a hard from 100 dollars the maximal sum which they pay 250 for a hard with anal! (Me certainly paid more, but sets on Sineplex I received mine for the first as much)! YOU consider 250 with anal it is the good price for work in a hard? Why Sineplex maintains girls thus? Bonya, Karmen and other good models receive such small money! Unless they deserve it? Any girl who has worked in Budapest, has not returned any more to work for Sineplex! I all went to be removed to them! Because each time they promised me to improve conditions, but it have not executed! And I trusted them.... But all the end comes! Sineplex the bad company and at me is many reasons, what it to speak! I know much, that else have not written and I do not wish to write about this company!!!
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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby gapelover on Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:35 am

chris wrote:
I believe her and not you of course!
I'm sure you have never go at Russia/Ukraine and you have never been in porn-movie shooting.You're just a porn fan and nothing more!
Anyone who has brain don't believe you anymore!!!

I wasn't there yet but i know much more than you can imagine and you know nothing, but why should i talk to ignorant guys like you who always attack Sineplex ? :evil:
New girls easily find a lot of work in this fast living industrie, but for girls who have done many shootings like Wiska it's not so easy to find work every month. Wiska gets a few more sets in Buda maybe and then she's history but Sineplex will last ! CC or 21sextury will not shoot her ten times in a row like Sineplex does.
Javier is really pissed by her unprofessional behavior. He will search for a new beautiful girl who agrees to do more shootings to become a star and will continue the Perversions line, thats it !
Alia is one really beautiful and nasty girl and will be the first candidate on his list:
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Postby Wiska on Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:27 am

On last shootings in Sineplex, I have understood, that more I do not wish to work with that company! I do not wish to bear humiliation more... Also has put at all in payment (though that too important!)! Javier promised much, but all its promises simply was the lie! When I worked with it in Prague it have promised to me to pay more, promised to make a site and many other things! When I have arrived to St.-Petersburg, payment to me have not raised, conditions in studio have not improved... And these Russian actors not professionals (20 years boys)! Which specially did to me painfully... I spoke wife Javiers every time, that I do not accept the attitude of actors to me! On what it simply lovely smiled! When I was ill on shootings on their vein... I continued all to work, though I had a heat! After last shootings I having come back home at me had serious problems with health!!!! I not time coming back from Sineplex, did tests and at me found illnesses ( clamidiosis and also) On what Olya spoke me, that at their actors all by way of! But why in other companies of it was not! At Sineplex the big stream of models, and tests (which they pay!!! Ha-ha) do not full! Only on the hepatites and AIds ! They on all save.. Even on health of the actors! They do not feed models, though the girl all the day is at studio! Yes they pay to me road! So what company to me does not pay it? Where I would not go, the road is paid always by the company! And tests too!!! But in difference from Sineplex in Budapest do the full test, on it do not save!!! Sineplex on all saves! Cheap clothes, cheap cosmetics, and the visagiste clean at studio! At studio the demon a limit where remove, there is created and live! The Dirt awful! For that to me to be washed in bathing me it was necessary most to wash it because in such bath not probably to wash... Hair, dung, a dirt!!! Not in one studio I more such did not see! Even if you do not trust me, but Javier about what I precisely know! I know, that more I shall not work with this company, (though it my first company in which
I have come to be removed) but it is a pity to me of other girls who deserve greater! Probably I any more shall be removed in general in any studio (as I wait for the second child!) and on DDF it there were my last shootings (there at me the second month of pregnancy)! And to me not what for to say lies about Sineplex!
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Re: Wiska

Postby ubertop on Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:34 am

Lovely Wiska,

you are the star and the symbol of this site.
you get the greatest attention with the largest number of posts and threads, and you always create happenings and events in this forum.
If you retire from porn, it is a big loss for everybody.
LOVE tO YOU



Wiska wrote:On last shootings in Sineplex, I have understood, that more I do not wish to work with that company! I do not wish to bear humiliation more... Also has put at all in payment (though that too important!)! Javier promised much, but all its promises simply was the lie! When I worked with it in Prague it have promised to me to pay more, promised to make a site and many other things! When I have arrived to St.-Petersburg, payment to me have not raised, conditions in studio have not improved... And these Russian actors not professionals (20 years boys)! Which specially did to me painfully... I spoke wife Javiers every time, that I do not accept the attitude of actors to me! On what it simply lovely smiled! When I was ill on shootings on their vein... I continued all to work, though I had a heat! After last shootings I having come back home at me had serious problems with health!!!! I not time coming back from Sineplex, did tests and at me found illnesses ( clamidiosis and also) On what Olya spoke me, that at their actors all by way of! But why in other companies of it was not! At Sineplex the big stream of models, and tests (which they pay!!! Ha-ha) do not full! Only on the hepatites and AIds ! They on all save.. Even on health of the actors! They do not feed models, though the girl all the day is at studio! Yes they pay to me road! So what company to me does not pay it? Where I would not go, the road is paid always by the company! And tests too!!! But in difference from Sineplex in Budapest do the full test, on it do not save!!! Sineplex on all saves! Cheap clothes, cheap cosmetics, and the visagiste clean at studio! At studio the demon a limit where remove, there is created and live! The Dirt awful! For that to me to be washed in bathing me it was necessary most to wash it because in such bath not probably to wash... Hair, dung, a dirt!!! Not in one studio I more such did not see! Even if you do not trust me, but Javier about what I precisely know! I know, that more I shall not work with this company, (though it my first company in which
I have come to be removed) but it is a pity to me of other girls who deserve greater! Probably I any more shall be removed in general in any studio (as I wait for the second child!) and on DDF it there were my last shootings (there at me the second month of pregnancy)! And to me not what for to say lies about Sineplex!
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Re: Wiska

Postby chris on Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:51 pm

Wiska wrote:On last shootings in Sineplex, I have understood, that more I do not wish to work with that company! I do not wish to bear humiliation more... Also has put at all in payment (though that too important!)! Javier promised much, but all its promises simply was the lie! When I worked with it in Prague it have promised to me to pay more, promised to make a site and many other things! When I have arrived to St.-Petersburg, payment to me have not raised, conditions in studio have not improved... And these Russian actors not professionals (20 years boys)! Which specially did to me painfully... I spoke wife Javiers every time, that I do not accept the attitude of actors to me! On what it simply lovely smiled! When I was ill on shootings on their vein... I continued all to work, though I had a heat! After last shootings I having come back home at me had serious problems with health!!!! I not time coming back from Sineplex, did tests and at me found illnesses ( clamidiosis and also) On what Olya spoke me, that at their actors all by way of! But why in other companies of it was not! At Sineplex the big stream of models, and tests (which they pay!!! Ha-ha) do not full! Only on the hepatites and AIds ! They on all save.. Even on health of the actors! They do not feed models, though the girl all the day is at studio! Yes they pay to me road! So what company to me does not pay it? Where I would not go, the road is paid always by the company! And tests too!!! But in difference from Sineplex in Budapest do the full test, on it do not save!!! Sineplex on all saves! Cheap clothes, cheap cosmetics, and the visagiste clean at studio! At studio the demon a limit where remove, there is created and live! The Dirt awful! For that to me to be washed in bathing me it was necessary most to wash it because in such bath not probably to wash... Hair, dung, a dirt!!! Not in one studio I more such did not see! Even if you do not trust me, but Javier about what I precisely know! I know, that more I shall not work with this company, (though it my first company in which
I have come to be removed) but it is a pity to me of other girls who deserve greater! Probably I any more shall be removed in general in any studio (as I wait for the second child!) and on DDF it there were my last shootings (there at me the second month of pregnancy)! And to me not what for to say lies about Sineplex!


Wiska,thank you again for the info.
Now I understand why sineplex never shoot with you a mini-gangbang or DAP scene!They can't pay you!!
But as i said don't worry,you can work at Buda where most of the studios are proffessional and they shoot movies over of 10 years now!
You can trust them.

I wish you the best and for your family :wink:
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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby dap-addict on Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:42 pm

gapelover wrote:CC or 21sextury will not shoot her ten times in a row like Sineplex does.
Javier is really pissed by her unprofessional behavior. He will search for a new beautiful girl who agrees to do more shootings to become a star and will continue the Perversions line, thats it !

More and more I get the impression Javier sends you his arguments, gapelover, and you write them for him here. Like yu were his speaker.
But if Javier had the guts and nothing to hide he`d come here directly and talk to us.

To read Wiskas text again is just a sad sad story. :(
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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby gapelover on Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:33 pm

dap-addict wrote:
gapelover wrote:CC or 21sextury will not shoot her ten times in a row like Sineplex does.
Javier is really pissed by her unprofessional behavior. He will search for a new beautiful girl who agrees to do more shootings to become a star and will continue the Perversions line, thats it !

More and more I get the impression Javier sends you his arguments, gapelover, and you write them for him here. Like yu were his speaker.
But if Javier had the guts and nothing to hide he`d come here directly and talk to us.

To read Wiskas text again is just a sad sad story. :(

Javier will not post on the forum, he don't need to respond to anyone.
Just a few of his words from the instant message:
ok prague scenario was 6 months ago- then she worked for sineplex 5 months ago
and now she is pregnant -
enough said
does not matter who you believe- all that matters is she takes care of her baby and congratulations
sineplex will not give her a site now- unfortunately sineplex still cant get their shit together- and having issues with their system which is very complex- but its almost done and sineplex was going to fulfill every part as they said. sineplex makes no money from internet yet.......
they even have her laptop for her webcam
but im sure someone will do the same for her at this level
she is a star in buda and czech and will make more there
she always got paid exactly what she asked and never told her to lower her price
NEVER
wish her the best
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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby dap-addict on Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:12 pm

gapelover wrote:she always got paid exactly what she asked and never told her to lower her price
NEVER

Dear Mr. Javier`s press speaker (aka gapelover),

I never claimed Wiska was payed badly at Sineplex.
All I said is that she was treated badly - more: also their other girls are treated badly.
And maybe this too is linked somehow with those special Sinplex "connections".

To me, sadly, all your best wishes to Wiska and her baby sound just shallow.


PS: Okay, I understand, Wiska broke that vail of silence. Or as you put it, she behaved "unprofessional" towards Janvier. But does she deserve so much disrespect on your part, too?
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Postby alexxx on Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:24 am

Hey guys, I think this discussion could go further for years.
Wiska now is retired and for a good reason... congratulations!
I would just say that porn is a dirty biz but everybody should always act seriously.
Everybody knows that complains can affect everybody.
Actresses can be annoying from the point of view of a producer but the crew can be perceived as a dirty gang from the actresses if the crew is not serious or don't care about them.
I know that for most of porn fans "it's just fucking" but everybody who knew the biz knows that real life is different.
Generally nobody has 100% right or wrong.
Often it's matter of feeling and bad facts that can turn worse if badly managed.
So, good lucky to everybody...
DP and cum are part of porn; DAP and swallows are for porn-stars!
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Postby Wiska on Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:09 pm

Yes you are right, it is possible to write indefinitely but in anything it will not result! I could still more many facts about Sineple[, but I simply want to forget all.. And to live further and To be good the wife and mother the to children!!! Probably it not the end of my career, but only not the big break! Holiday!!! :P
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Re: Wiska

Postby alexxx on Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:39 pm

Wiska wrote:Yes you are right, it is possible to write indefinitely but in anything it will not result! I could still more many facts about Sineple[, but I simply want to forget all.. And to live further and To be good the wife and mother the to children!!! Probably it not the end of my career, but only not the big break! Holiday!!! :P


As I always say to promising girls after few scenes and who want to continue, "look for the best, contact the big ones and you will find your way".
Ciao
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Re: Wiska

Postby ubertop on Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:49 pm

Wiska, you cannot be replaced.
You are too wonderful.
There cannot be two Wiskas in this profession, there is only one.
Thank you so much.
And please make a fantastic come back after your holidays !
We are waiting !


Wiska wrote:Yes you are right, it is possible to write indefinitely but in anything it will not result! I could still more many facts about Sineple[, but I simply want to forget all.. And to live further and To be good the wife and mother the to children!!! Probably it not the end of my career, but only not the big break! Holiday!!! :P
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Re: hmmmmm, ....

Postby Rosseau on Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:26 am

gapelover wrote:If possible for money reasons EVERY producer would like to shoot in Russia, but if you won't go to jail you need some good connections, because porn shooting is still forbidden there !

If you don't want to work for the conditions in any country don't sign the contract, thats it !


If porn shooting is illegal in Russia, then any sort of "contract" about it is also illegal, and the signature of the model doesn't mean anything.

Really, I shouldn't have to point this out to you, but apparently you have some problems with the basics of the law.

Not everything can be bad with Sineplex or why do you think most Russian models will work for them again.


As others have pointed out, because there is no alternative - or not many of them, anyway.

I wasn't there yet but i know much more than you can imagine and you know nothing, but why should i talk to ignorant guys like you who always attack Sineplex ?


So, you were never there, but you know "much more then we can imagine"? I guess that's because you know all the stuff Sineplex write to you?

Free piece of job advice: don't become a journalist. :lol:

Really, guys, I'm afraid that this is becoming a tad embarassing. Let's end this fruitless discussion. Personally, I don't care about Sineplex one way or another - they have too few swallowing scenes. :wink:
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Postby az on Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:19 pm

Obviously everyone is afraid to say what really is so prevelent in Russia/Ukraine.....mafia. Perhaps this little addendum will even be edited because it is embarrassing to the industry
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