Why do Russian girls have particularly short careers?

[Winston]

Does season two of "The Wire" has to do with the sex industry? I'm asking because I watched a few episodes of the first season in the past and thought it was pretty much "meh", regardless of its high status. But if it has to do with the sex industry/escorting then it sounds interesting.

Yes...the second season deals in part with the "white slave" trade of women from some eastern european countries.


WARNING: SPOILERS!!!

The Wire - Season Two in One Minute


The Wire Season 2 Recap

[spnevsky]

After a few scenes they're ready for the "export market" if you know what i mean

what do you mean ?

watch season two of "the wire" and you'll get what i mean

season 2 was my least favorite but hands down greatest show ever agree?

[zup]

I think that at least in part they expected to do too much too early - DAP, gaping, idiotically extreme crap as produced by Sineplex, etc...

I think doing this kind of really hard stuff scares a lot of girls away - especially when you see they way they are treated on-camera by misogynistic male 'talent'.

PG

Oh come on, at least half of them enjoy it. It's something new and exciting for them.

Lol NO they don't. It's just about money. Porn is not sex, it's girls getting paid to perform circus acts.

[Winston]

season 2 was my least favorite but hands down greatest show ever agree?

Season 2 of The Wire was my favorite out of their five seasons.
...but they were all very good in their own unique ways.

"hands down greatest show ever"??.....I was/am a HUGE fan of the show..and I wouldn't go that far.
Great show?....for sure..totally..without a doubt.
"hands down greatest show ever"..?....ehh....it's up there on the list of great TV shows....top 20...maybe even top 10....but
it's so hard to say that one great show was so much better than another great show.

The Wire.....great writing/story...great acting/performances...and great direction.
The work stands as a classic for it's time..if not for all time.....we'll have to see how it all holds up over time.

[dap-addict]

After a few scenes they're ready for the "export market" if you know what i mean

Its not only the pimp business, but also Juliana and other caring to present them better payed and more professional career options in porn.
But once they worked for 2-3 times higher fees on porn sets in Budapest most of them dont want to work for the going Piter fees anymore.
And thus their careers tend to get shorter, too.
As everything there are two sides of the coin.

Btw, Marksy, we just recently discussed an interesting interview sheding more light from inside the Piter scene in your short Russian porn girl career question.
Check this one here: http://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17736&p=200404&hilit=Russian#p200404

[spnevsky]

season 2 was my least favorite but hands down greatest show ever agree?

Season 2 of The Wire was my favorite out of their five seasons.
...but they were all very good in their own unique ways.

"hands down greatest show ever"??.....I was/am a HUGE fan of the show..and I wouldn't go that far.
Great show?....for sure..totally..without a doubt.
"hands down greatest show ever"..?....ehh....it's up there on the list of great TV shows....top 20...maybe even top 10....but
it's so hard to say that one great show was so much better than another great show.

The Wire.....great writing/story...great acting/performances...and great direction.
The work stands as a classic for it's time..if not for all time.....we'll have to see how it all holds up over time.

what would you put above the wire? The writing on the show was actually so strong, the story lines were ground breaking. Even though only a few years have past since the last season, the show still does very well on syndication. HOWEVER, that being said, i cannot argue with another persons opinion that other shows, sopranos, taxi, etc may be better. What can be said is solid show, one of the best

[dap-addict]

Being pointed back to this thread, I hope I didnt sound like critisizing Juliana`s porn export scheme for Budapest.
On the contrary!
I think its a very good initiative that for many girls actually prolongs their porn career.

The basic point I get from Sashas interview and other insider infos is that the fresh flesh quest in Russia is even stronger than in Budapest, Prague and Paris.
It has nothing to do with the acts the girls perform, just rather with Russian production culture and the really big talent pool as well.
That abundant talent pool also up to now didnt force locals to form a professional porn agent biz, thus makeing career planning for girls even more complicated.

Stillm who really wants to stay longer in the biz can do so - as the case of Alysa, Candy Alexa or Sasha Rose show. It just demands some extra wit on the girls side.

[pagangod_uk]

I think that at least in part they expected to do too much too early - DAP, gaping, idiotically extreme crap as produced by Sineplex, etc...

I think doing this kind of really hard stuff scares a lot of girls away - especially when you see they way they are treated on-camera by misogynistic male 'talent'.

PG

Oh come on, at least half of them enjoy it. It's something new and exciting for them.

Lol NO they don't. It's just about money. Porn is not sex, it's girls getting paid to perform circus acts.

Yes, of course - methinks Marksy is quite delusional to believe otherwise...

PG

[dap-addict]

Of course they do it for the money, but for their career lenght it doenst matter what acts they do.
If they need a lot of money in a short time, they tend to do more extreme porn acts faster, but that`s all. They are not fresh faces anymore no matter what they did for those few months.
Still, if some of them really want to carry on, there are ways to do it. Alysa jumped straight away into dap during her first porn scene and she is still in. Mandy Dee is another example - she lasted quite long for Russian porn girls before she retired. Mandy, too, did a dap very early into her Piter porn career.

[Xenomorgue]

Alysa did well by moving on to Western porn, where she became
popular due to her skill of taking very large objects in the ass.
She often appears in Jay Sin movies, but also in PornXN (fisting).

Isabella seems to be following the same career plan.

[dap-addict]

What is Western porn?
Many of those Russian cuties perform for Jay Sin and others shooting in Piter!
The prolonging step Alysa and many others take is to find a way to perform west of Piter, too, mainly in Budapest where porn careers last longer.
Sasha, btw, wonders in his interview why Europeans shoot the same girl over and over.
In Alysas and Isabella Clarks case they both went with Juliana Grandis help to Budapest first, but later broke loyality bonds and built their own biz ties in the West.

[Xenomorgue]

To answer the original question:
Russians tend to be gloomy, melancholic, bitter, spiteful people.
For Russians, smiling to someone is an act of weakness or stupidity.

When the first McDonalds restaurant opened its doors in Moskow,
the staff had to learn how to be friendly and to smile to customers.
They had to bring in American instructors, because no Russian got it!

In porn you see the same thing. Sure, the girls have nice bodies and cute faces.
And yes, they are willing to do almost anything. Yet they do it in a robotic way.

If you don't believe me, just check out the "Lil Lezzy Prospects" series
(Sinsational). In each of these porn movies you will see Russian girls
engaging in girl-girl sex, without any illusion that they are having fun...

In porn it is essential that the girl performs/acts as if she has a good time.

[dap-addict]

So they have short careers simply because they don't enjoy it?

I think Xenomorgues point is that porn girls at least have to convey that they enjoy what they perform.
If they dont - as indeed too many Russian girls do - than nobody wants to book them anymore.
So far I agree with him, but at the same time there are Russian talents just frankly loving sex, too. Irenka comes to mind, or Poly. Both of them equally lasted but a year or less. Both didnt contact Juliana and/or didnt get contacted by her for her Budapest export scheme. Both were no fresh flesh anymore in Russian terms soon. Too bad!
I hope they do once developpe a real porn agent biz in Piter - and more foreign directors go there to shoot again and demand biz services common in Buda!

[Xenomorgue]

Cherry Jul is not only a very attractive young Russian woman, but also an
eager and enthuastic performer. For several years she had a fine career,
in which she was able to work for many different companies and directors.

She has now retired. I hope she made good money during her porn career
years, and I wish her all the best with her current and future activities.

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

Russian girls are not enthousiastic performers ?

Angel Rivas
Logan
Henessy
Venday
Wiska
Lolly Moon
Nataly Von
Ivana Sugar
Cherry Jul
Aspen*
Nataly Gold
Alice Miller *
Sasha rose
Mandy Dee*

and many others

* With good male performer under great circumstances

And I am not talking about fake ass american enthousiasm where the girl repeats fuck me 100 times and squeals like a pig to make the six pack middle american moron understands that she is having a blast.

No, I am talking about real moans and the spark in the eye.

I remember MAndy Dee screaming fuck me Rocco like she fucking meant it and she had Rocco's dick deep in her ass when she shout that.

And I see a lot of scenes shot by Omar Galanti with russian cuties who are constantly gigling, smiling and moaning during their crash course in anal destruction.

But then again women are manipulative and lying bitches who only care about the money ... or NOT.