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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby brawnypandora0 on Sun May 23, 2010 5:48 am

pinkincide wrote:Just think if the tech from Avatar was used for porn. We'll all be jerking off to polygons soon.
But I'll be too busy watching Jessica Alba ass fisting Keira Knightley to care. :P


Is this a serious venture that the industry is pursuing? Are there real examples of this now, even if it is totally fake? ::: I would love to see my favorite celebrities get triple penetrated by Manuel, Rocco, and Nick Lang :D
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby brawnypandora0 on Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:30 am

I think Woodman will be out of business within five years at the most. "I promise I promise I promise" is his most common phrase on his forum. His Frenglish is terrible--when have you ever heard him say, "What are you doing in your life" instead of "what are you doing in THE life?" The porn is low quality with terrible lighting with models that can't be found on iafd or indexxx.

His new WUNF site is a complete joke; who here ever has had sex with a woman minutes after she wakes up from bed, before she even brushes her teeth? If not, who would find it attractive?
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby Winston on Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:41 pm

brawnypandora0 wrote:His new WUNF site is a complete joke; who here ever has had sex with a woman minutes after she wakes up from bed, before she even brushes her teeth? If not, who would find it attractive?


I think that type of theme plays into a certain fetish type of thing.
It might not be for your liking/desire...but other people might like and enjoy it.
(...personally....I am far from being anti-morning sex....but as far as my porn viewing tastes go...this type theme does
very little for me.)

Mr. Woodman might be using this theme for a website because it might be something that he
personally might enjoy doing and shooting etc...or it might be because it's a theme/something that he
feels might work for a profit his business model(s).
(..or it might be a nice combination of mixing business with personal pleasures for Mr. Woodman. :wink: )
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby IMaRetArd on Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:46 pm

brawnypandora0 wrote:I think Woodman will be out of business within five years at the most. "I promise I promise I promise" is his most common phrase on his forum. His Frenglish is terrible--when have you ever heard him say, "What are you doing in your life" instead of "what are you doing in THE life?" The porn is low quality with terrible lighting with models that can't be found on iafd or indexxx.

His new WUNF site is a complete joke; who here ever has had sex with a woman minutes after she wakes up from bed, before she even brushes her teeth? If not, who would find it attractive?


ever hear of the concept of reality porn? call it a documentary or casting...wtf ever. its porn, and all have its niches. this just looks like some kind of dissing without a valid reason. im definetly not a "fan" of pierre amd im not all that into this style, but his nr of girls in his productions is impressive. As well as his exclusiveness with some of these actresses, as well as exclusive material (piss and love anyone? and yes i would pay a years memberfee to see the claudia rossi on that one). and as far as his english is i dont give a fuck, im more impressed by him for his attention to his forum and members that ask things there. where can u find some sites that give the same kind of attention or info?

there are many reality sites, which in turn is just poor acting made by smalltime wanna be actresses without a script or story, so the wunf site is really not worse then any other. inn fact better since it follows its concept and u know what kind of things u will get.

im not defending or ranting down, i just think there should b more valid reasoning to what u can get compared to other productions/sites.
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby Winston on Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:49 pm

brawnypandora0 wrote: His Frenglish is terrible--


Come on brawny....that's getting very petty. :|

Lay off on Mr. Woodman's english language skills.
His english might not always be perfect...but it's just fine for more than basic communication.
(..and you *know* this....so you're probably just looking for some lame reasons to try to knock the guy for whatever reasons you might have.)
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby Winston on Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:51 pm

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People in porn are perplexed as to what is going on. They are clueless about how and why the industry has suddenly gone to hell. I'm getting some ideas about it too, hearing from former fans, current fans and the like. When you run a strip club you get a bit closer to the consumer it seems.

One of the things that surprised me is that the size of the female audience is apparently larger than the industry knew. Now I'm not saying that strippers are indicative of single females in general but ALL of my dancers watch porn, so do my bartenders, including the 21 year old I just hired who formerly waitressed at a family restaurant and had never even been in a strip club. Seems that porn is really no big deal to the under 30 single female.

As for the younger (under 30 guys) the overwhelming sentiment was why on earth would I buy it, it's everywhere for free. I can pull up something, watch it and be done in ten minutes, no video store, nothing.

As for the older porn fans, as one guy put it...."Porn has issues, it turned into a freak show, it isn't sexy to turn sex into a violent act, I don't want to watch that, do you?" Seems that most would rather join a website that reflects their particular tastes, be it a particular fetish or whatever.

Indeed, it would appear to me that the industry has consumed itself. Too much product, shifting the focus from the girls to the guys, removing anything erotic, it has become as plastic as Jenna. It lost it's soul.

There was a time when our industry made intelligent movies about sex instead of the unintelligent movies with sex that we make now. In with your porn was some character development and a semblance of a plot. But the female stars were never abused, but then they didn't turn tricks on the internet either.

So we have issues, and some genius out there thinks that bringing Rob Black into the industry is the answer?

The reason nobody flunks out of porn is because apparently there's no one in porn with enough intelligence to recognize that our lack of intelligence is slowly but surely killing us off. Not unlike Playboy Magazine we have failed to change and adapt, instead we have the confidence that we know what they want, not them and the result is that our customers are abandoning us.

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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby IMaRetArd on Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:55 pm

what id like to add to this section concerning porns future, id have to agree that supply and demand is always a controlling factor. industry and ways for production will however change greatly, so u never know. with new technology u can get so many things, but companies that gather the best girls and supply the best action will still sell, even if these things will work out in a different way.

concerning camsites i think ofc they will b there, but camshows might b more and more common on sites that are out there. picture a pornproduction company with a reality camshow that u can follow live from different cameras like in one of those "vouyer houses". impossible thought? i dont think so, because the future will change the way things are done. how and in what way the market will look like we cant say yet. Thats because things will change more and more. the next 10 years will definetly be interesting....
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby gape on Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:03 pm

What is all this crap. The porn industry is a 100+Billion $ industry. Perhaps the only problem faced is there will only be a select few production companies.

Woodmand will never stop whinging. The casting thing does nothing for me, but I agree with the above, at least its there for people who like it. I don't really understand the stuff he does, some of it isnt' true 'casting' :?:
If he has brought girls to the industrys attention then all respect and thanks, but is there really going to to be a market in the future or will be casting be part of an agency if it is already?
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby Pierre Woodman on Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:36 pm

Interresting to read all those comments !!!
Brawnypandora0 , I don't give a fuck to people who doesn't like my "Frenglish" because no one of them is able to find is road in middle of Russia, Brazil and many other place as I can do myself, and I never pretended to be good at speaking english but at least my fans understand me better than me if you try to speak French !!!
Winston and IMaRetArd, thanks to be a smart guys who have understood what people like brawnypandora0 do not !!!

In fact, gentlemen, I'm ready to bet with anyone that it will be ME who will decide the day I will stop this business and not the business who will be tired of me !!! I have discover so many new faces, and still get so many exclusive one every year that i'm really confident my work will not be boring before a quarter of century !!! After 20 years here, and few "grinch" like Brawnypandora0 complaining, I'm still able to bring some entertainment in an industry where most of the producers are crying !
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby karasek on Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:06 pm

IMaRetArd wrote:concerning camsites i think ofc they will b there, but camshows might b more and more common on sites that are out there. picture a pornproduction company with a reality camshow that u can follow live from different cameras like in one of those "vouyer houses". impossible thought? i dont think so, because the future will change the way things are done. how and in what way the market will look like we cant say yet. Thats because things will change more and more. the next 10 years will definetly be interesting....


Exactly. Porn made new technologies big, like VHS or DVD, or used new technologies very successful, like the Internet and HD. If the current crop of porn producers can't find ways to make their business profitable they will be replaced by new guys who know how to use the latest technologies. I'm sure the next big think is live porn and interactivity. Just look at the cam sites. They slowly switch to HD now, which means in the not so distant future live action can be seen in good quality on TV. Add some funktionality to make it interactive and you have a new business model.... like your "voyeur house", with a topic like "orgy with Wiska in the kitchen at 8 p.m. if 5000$ are reached", add a counter and see what happens...
Or something like this ;)
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby Patrick2 on Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:57 pm

Pierre Woodman wrote:Interresting to read all those comments !!!
In fact, gentlemen, I'm ready to bet with anyone that it will be ME who will decide the day I will stop this business and not the business who will be tired of me !!! I have discover so many new faces,
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Well I hope you decide to quit in a very long time from now. Anybody who can make money and still offer such great content as you must be doing something right. Keep up the good work.
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby dap-addict on Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:54 pm

karasek wrote:Add some funktionality to make it interactive and you have a new business model.... like your "voyeur house", with a topic like "orgy with Wiska in the kitchen at 8 p.m. if 5000$ are reached", add a counter and see what happens...

I think this is a very workable model in not so distant time! :)
Actually wait for it to happen soon, and it sure would suck up some of my money I dont spend on porn anymore today.
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby Pierre Woodman on Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:24 pm

2012 will be maybe a very interresting year if what I have heard this week comes true !
Some powerfull people start to push up a lot against piracy inthis moment and there are so much money to do on making law suit to people who download free content that in germany it has brough few millions euros this years to injuried company. This model start to interres many people and could be in the future a good way to fight especialy since Master card and Visa seems ready to stop processing all big group like Files sonic, megaupload etc...
If they do it, 80 % of the piracy will disapeared because only a few purcentage of custommers are enough patient to go on the Torrent and use it properly !!!
I hope it will really go that way in the futur !
The .XXX is the problem of tomorrow if they cancel the .com to all porn content providers, and this is what they have in mind. Then the lost of money will definitly kill this industry if it happens !

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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby claudia_rossi_fan_1 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:46 pm

Some powerfull people

Disney, Fox, Universal, Warner, Paramount, Sony ( Columbia) ???
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Re: Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

Postby karasek on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:10 am

Pierre Woodman wrote:2012 will be maybe a very interresting year if what I have heard this week comes true !
Some powerfull people start to push up a lot against piracy inthis moment and there are so much money to do on making law suit to people who download free content that in germany it has brough few millions euros this years to injuried company. This model start to interres many people and could be in the future a good way to fight especialy since Master card and Visa seems ready to stop processing all big group like Files sonic, megaupload etc...
If they do it, 80 % of the piracy will disapeared because only a few purcentage of custommers are enough patient to go on the Torrent and use it properly !!!
I hope it will really go that way in the futur !


You think piracy will disappear because a few file hosts get closed? Did MP3 sharing stop with the disappearance of Napster? Piracy will simply find new ways of distribution... like in the past 20 (!) years.
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