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Postby dap-addict on Fri May 11, 2007 7:45 pm

BEP wrote:Not every company want to increase budget of shooting at this ammount (is about of 8000 euro for 8 girls) ...


Of course not!
But a way out is to delegate the visum/testing hassle to an agent booking the girl afterwards not just to one company, but a dotzen or more. If a girl does 30 scenes in Prague instead of just 3 the investment should pay back by large. :)
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Postby gapelover on Sat May 12, 2007 7:24 am

BEP wrote:There is the other problem. Every Russian or Ukrainian girl must have visum to visit Prague or Budapest, then for every girl need to reserve hotel, pay for the delivery of girl to Prague or Budapest and back road. It's mean what cost of shooting will grow on is about of 1000 euro per every girl + additional work for getting of visum.

Then every delivered girl must be tested on HIV and other diseases, it's also additional moneys for producers.

Not every company want to increase budget of shooting at this ammount (is about of 8000 euro for 8 girls) ...


You are right about visum,traveling and hotel costs but nobody mentioned the travelling costs of an US based company if they go to Russia, Hungary or Czech for shooting !
For example Chris Clark lives in Buda, maybe this is one reason why he can pay higher rates for Buda based babes. And all models from other countries have to pay their Visa, travelling, and hotel costs themself if they come to Buda.
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Postby BEP on Sat May 12, 2007 10:26 am

Not sure what Russian or Ukrainian models ready to pay money for thier visit to Prag or Buda... For lot's of them 7 days traveling tour will cost 450+ euro, visum 35 euro and some moneys they must spend here.

Yes, Czech models which visit Buda, or Hungarian which visit Prag can pay 30 euro for ticket on the train... It's small moneys and fees will override these expenses, but not in the case with russian/ukrainian girls, where fees can be same as their spendings....

For producers/directors low budget movies also better to arrive in country of shooting, than deliver models in other country.
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Postby dap-addict on Sat May 12, 2007 6:34 pm

BEP wrote:Not sure what Russian or Ukrainian models ready to pay money for thier visit to Prag or Buda...


They sure are, if only they can get their money back many-fold.
Why not invest 500-1000 Euro when you can take back 10000 Euro???!!!
But to make this possible professional agents have to represent them in Prague/Budapest. And to book them out possibly already in advance. And possibly get them some escort work for their "free time", too. Such agencies existed in the past. They must exist today, too. Just think of all the profit lurking...!
The only thing I wonder is why none of the welknown Prague/Budapest based agencies has yet specialized in this kind of service.
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Postby BEP on Sat May 12, 2007 7:29 pm

Do not know, but think it's not work. It's difficult to earn 10000 eur for model for 7-14 days. For longest period is difficult to receive visum.

Anyway, only peoples who work with models directly can say, it's possible or not, and why they still not work with russian/ukrainian models abroad of russia/ukraine.

Moreover, i know what in Prague, here is lot's of ukrainian girls and some of them ready to go in porn, but do not know why the not do it professionally....
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Postby dap-addict on Sun May 13, 2007 5:02 am

BEP wrote:Anyway, only peoples who work with models directly can say, it's possible or not


We have some of them here, dont we?

However, if it is really the case that Russians/Ukrainians get a Czech visum valid for 7-14 days only, that may actually be the reason. Even if booked out fully, it may hardly be worth all the (visa) fuss etc.
There must be other ways to stay longer, like student´s visas, though.

I hope its not the Czech state hampering the further developpement of that prospering Prague sex industry. :(
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Postby dap-addict on Sun May 13, 2007 1:59 pm

BEP wrote:For producers/directors low budget movies also better to arrive in country of shooting, than deliver models in other country.


Sounds too generalizing to me. It really all depends upon the fees and overall shooting facilities.
Still, of course there is something with it. For dap I just established that the act actually costs about half the Budapest price in St. Peterburg. Budapest again is at least half as expensive as shooting a dap in the Porn Valley. I dont know the relations for Prague, though.
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Postby BEP on Sun May 13, 2007 4:04 pm

Here can be additional troubles with Visum from january 2008. Czech Republic, Hungary and some other EU coutries enter to Schengen area from this date. It's mean what all foreign models should to receive Schengen visum.
Schengen visum allow to visit any country enter to Schengen zone (Include France, Italy, Germany, etc), but conditions of receiving this visum think will harder.

Time of getting of the long-term Czech visum (over 90 days) is about of 2-3 months (include student visum). Most easiest way to visit Prague or Budapest for girls for filming is tourist visum on 7-14 days. There is difficult to receive tourist visum on longer period...

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I hope its not the Czech state hampering the further developpement of that prospering Prague sex industry. :(
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Postby dap-addict on Sun May 13, 2007 10:11 pm

BEP wrote:Here can be additional troubles with Visum from january 2008.
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Looks like the only way out is to increase the number of female Ukrainian and Russian students in 2008. It means some long term planning, but should also secure a 10000 Euro thereshold to be earned on set (and escorting) - provided an agency helps them.
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Postby dap-addict on Wed May 16, 2007 4:33 am

BEP wrote:Moreover, i know what in Prague, here is lot's of ukrainian girls and some of them ready to go in porn, but do not know why the not do it professionally....


BEP, are they working as escorts and therefore in most cases bound to other kinds of contracts?
Or is there just amateur gold laying in the streets with nobody really scouting?
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Postby BEP on Wed May 16, 2007 8:16 am

My friend placed announcements in the Russian-speaking announce newspaper In Prague with the offer on shooting in erotic movies / photo sets and some Ukrainian girls call to him and came on shootings. But it was amateur style shootings, almost without anal sex (and of course withount DP and DAP).

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BEP wrote:Moreover, i know what in Prague, here is lot's of ukrainian girls and some of them ready to go in porn, but do not know why the not do it professionally....


BEP, are they working as escorts and therefore in most cases bound to other kinds of contracts?
Or is there just amateur gold laying in the streets with nobody really scouting?
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Postby BEP on Wed May 16, 2007 8:24 am

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Postby dap-addict on Wed May 16, 2007 2:46 pm

BEP wrote:My friend placed announcements in the Russian-speaking announce newspaper In Prague


Okay, no dp/dap is sad, but thats a start actually. :)
Doesnt that basically show it works? If interested your friend could act as an agent for these girls and get them more hardcore scenes, no? Or if they didnt want to do harder stuff, he could place other announcements in that paper looking for girls interested in higher payed hardcore acts.
Do you have any idea wheter the girls he shot were asking for less money than Czech girls?
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Postby BEP on Thu May 17, 2007 11:44 am

No, he is amateur photographer, who do stuff for websites and now he almost completely retired from shooting. He do not have own agency.

He offer own price, of course, and it's cheaper price. He do need to pay comission to agencies in case with newspaper announce.

In Prague lot's of agencies which offer girls for shooting, but this agencies offer only Czech girls. Almost no Russian/Ukrainian girls offering. Think the main problem for agencies - girl must be all time in Prague, if somebody want to select her for shooting. Russian/Ukrainian can return back in their countries...

dap-addict wrote:Okay, no dp/dap is sad, but thats a start actually. :)
Doesnt that basically show it works? If interested your friend could act as an agent for these girls and get them more hardcore scenes, no? Or if they didnt want to do harder stuff, he could place other announcements in that paper looking for girls interested in higher payed hardcore acts.
Do you have any idea wheter the girls he shot were asking for less money than Czech girls?
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Postby tiger on Thu May 17, 2007 12:15 pm

BEP wrote:In Prague lot's of agencies which offer girls for shooting, but this agencies offer only Czech girls. Almost no Russian/Ukrainian girls offering. Think the main problem for agencies - girl must be all time in Prague, if somebody want to select her for shooting. Russian/Ukrainian can return back in their countries...

Plus UA/RUS girls need a visa to stay - which is given to a definite (usually shorter) period of time.
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