Pierre Woodman's new site - Piss and Love!

[Bad Samaritan]

Love this site! Allisons scene where she's sucking the still dripping cock is just awesome.

And she looks way better than she is in 21Sextury's glamour stuff. Awesome!

[camaban]

My opinion? Woodman is only interested in making money with these girls, the girl as a person, their lives (especially after working with him), their feelings didn't bother him. Now I also know why some of these girls did anal only for him and then didn't want to do it anymore (Black Diamond for example). He sits on this piss scenes since years and when most of the girls are retired, have family and kids, this finally release this stuff. Nice, really nice Pierre.

One tip Ricardo: Don't give new models to Pierre, give it to Christoph, he has respect for the girls he works with.

[Mr_White]

@ camaban: If nobody would be interested in making money with porn, there would be no porn. Think about it!

Thus said, @ Ricardo Soli: PW sure paid them models for what he filmed with them. So, your argument is that he "forced them with money" to do what they did? Sorry, but this is not an argument at all. Because if you decide to swim with the sharks, you should know your risks. Same for them models.

justmy2cents

[sbando]

What's funny is that he's still good friends with dozens of these girls, he probably still fucks a few of them in private, one married his brother, others married crew members, some stayed as make-up artists or interpreters or were "girlfriends".

[just_me]

Or are the girls friends with him only because they don't want the full "stash" released? Every single one of those images shows a face of pure disgust at what is happening to them, I don't know, probably just so Woodman can claim another enthusiasm to his collection?

Piss scenes are piss scenes, whatever, who cares? But the whole dynamic of how and when he decided to release these scenes does raise questions about his true character, of which I'm disappointed in a lot of people around here, even on a scale already adjusted to porn standards

[Bad Samaritan]

I really don't understand anti-Woodmanism. He's no Bluebeard, although lots of people, especially those who criticise him harshly want to see him this way. I know that he had conflicts with some girls in the past but I also saw him reconcile with many in years.

[sbando]

No one forced girls like Monika Sweet or Eve Angel to spend months or years as "girlfriends", on and off set. Eva is still friends with Pierre nowadays. Magdi too, among others. If you read his board, you will find dozens of similar stories. Many of them keep gravitating around him and his entourage. You should maybe wonder about those women and what's in their heads.

[DigitalCopyright]

My opinion? Woodman is only interested in making money with these girls, the girl as a person, their lives (especially after working with him), their feelings didn't bother him. Now I also know why some of these girls did anal only for him and then didn't want to do it anymore (Black Diamond for example). He sits on this piss scenes since years and when most of the girls are retired, have family and kids, this finally release this stuff. Nice, really nice Pierre.

One tip Ricardo: Don't give new models to Pierre, give it to Christoph, he has respect for the girls he works with.

Camaban, porn is a job. Like all jobs, there are times when you have to do things that you might not necessarily like in order to get ahead. All of these girls were cognisant of what they were getting themselves into.

Of course, it's much better to enjoy what you do but life can be a bitch at times. A bit of perspective is needed here. You have to remember that most people aren't fortunate enough to find a job they like - it's simply a means to an end.

I bet that the vast majority of girls in porn enjoy their jobs - not necessarily all the sex acts but the benefits that come with it i.e. the money, travelling etc.
After all, without porn, what would these girls be doing? Escorting? If not, earning far less money in an extremely mundane and not particularly skilled profession.

Furthermore, you talk about Woodman and other producers degrading girls but how do you know that? Where you there?

I've been with quite a few girls in my time who liked being slapped/chocked/gagged but would completely refuse anal on any level whatsoever. In contrast, the opposite has occurred. Different strokes for different folks. What turns on one person often disgusts another. We should welcome such diversity of thought - it makes us all different.

As for him waiting to release his own scenes, it's his right...he owns the Copyright. So what if some of these girls are now married? If they were worried about what people thought of them, they shouldn't have chosen a life in pornography. At the end of the day, you make your bed and lie in it.

[shark1]

Or are the girls friends with him only because they don't want the full "stash" released? Every single one of those images shows a face of pure disgust at what is happening to them, I don't know, probably just so Woodman can claim another enthusiasm to his collection?

That is not accurate at all! Like Pierre said, some of the women were really into it, and if you would actually watch a clip or two instead of sounding so biased, Judith Fox enjoyed it!

[sbando]

Dozens of these models still befriend him, this is FACT, if you don't like it or hate the idea that the sweet "Jo" gets pissed in the mouth, don't visit his sites. Many people hate Woodman because he shows the true nature of most of these young women.

[Bad Samaritan]

Many people hate Woodman because he shows the true nature of most of these young women.

Although he abstains from revealing their true identities at most times. I guess it's a part of the gentlemen's code in the pornland. A possibly "implied" exception is the casting session featured in Yo Puta and there are a few "lapsuses" in a number of castings. Nevertheless, I assume that "some people" would have hated him even more if he acted otherwise.

[Blushing]

pierre is great, you can talk with him on his forum, hes cool

[sbando]

That said , let's not turn another topic into a fight between lovers and haters. Free to open a specific thread, though.

[Mr_White]

The only way to can see things how they are in reality is the confrontation of the opinions we have on forums. Otherways, we become stupid "marionettes" We can't fight here

[sbando]

Oh I agree, just don't hi-jack every thread into something else, topics must be kept clean or the forum becomes even more unreadable. Users can open ANY discussion they want, just don't cram the existing ones with all kinds of OT's.