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Re: Wiska

Postby ChuteLubrique on Wed May 15, 2013 5:47 pm

Agree with you, Am0r, but I think you mean "strangers," not "foreigners," at least I hope you do. :wink:

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Re: Wiska

Postby Am0rIn0 on Wed May 15, 2013 5:51 pm

of course strangers... :::
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Re: Wiska

Postby karasek on Wed May 15, 2013 7:43 pm

dap-addict wrote:Interesting she says she continued performing on porn sets even after her husband was relesed from prison and she didnt need the money anymore.


The article says something different:
"Als Anastasias Mann nach dreieinhalb Jahren vorzeitig aus dem Gefängnis freikam, drehte sie zunächst weiter. "Dank der Filme musste ich nur alle zwei Monate eine Woche von den Kindern weg sein. Trotzdem dachte ich jedes Mal: nie wieder. Aber dann wurde das Geld knapp".

The business of her husband was probably not that profitable anymore after trouble with both Mafia and prosecutors and three years in prison. Maybe it didn't even exist anymore.
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Re: Wiska

Postby karasek on Thu May 16, 2013 5:16 am

Am0rIn0 wrote:she should say the full truth, that is a lot of fun to earn easy cash that way, getting fucked the hard way with lots of orgasms. all this diplomatic and political correct statememnts in some lines are unnecessary. sex with foreigners is not a big deal, in opposite it is quite a kick for every women and creates sexual tension. in the beginning to be afraid is ok but after a woman tries it the first time and see how much fun it can be will have no problem to do it again and again, if paid even better. one night stands and swingers in prove this. that stories that a woman must be in love or know a man very well to enjoy sex are the biggest bullshit. the people who tell this stories are the ones who dont get laid or believe in hollywood romances. :)


Yes, that's why almost all pornstars now come from poor Eastern European countries. They simply love it so much more to get banged by strangers and published wordwide than Western women. Because they are more liberal and sexually open than their Western sisters. And which mother doesn't dream to show their children later in life how she was banged unprotected by three probably untested black dicks from South America. Her children will be proud of her. And I'm sure it's a wonderful, liberating, feeling to get these huge dicks rammed into your ass. Why don't you try it yourself and ram a hammer or your fist into your ass for half an hour? I'm sure you will love the feeling and feel very liberated afterwards...
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Re: Wiska

Postby dap-addict on Thu May 16, 2013 6:27 am

karasek wrote:The article says something different:
"Als Anastasias Mann nach dreieinhalb Jahren vorzeitig aus dem Gefängnis freikam, drehte sie zunächst weiter. "Dank der Filme musste ich nur alle zwei Monate eine Woche von den Kindern weg sein. Trotzdem dachte ich jedes Mal: nie wieder. Aber dann wurde das Geld knapp".

The business of her husband was probably not that profitable anymore after trouble with both Mafia and prosecutors and three years in prison. Maybe it didn't even exist anymore.

Later she needed the money again, yes. But the time in between she did it without needing it. Otherwise that last sentene you cite makes no sense.
For me it sounds rather like a women addicted to this kind of job - expericence - sex with strangers stillbeing hunted with remorse, maybe guilt culture inflicted. But than doing it again and again.
Interesting is also that only now she claims it was so bad and she was forced to do it all the time to feed her children. Go figure!
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Thu May 16, 2013 12:24 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:all this diplomatic and political correct statememnts in some lines are unnecessary.

Then you have probably no idea in what situation she is now. :-: Of course she wants to use every possible correct statement to try and find a solution and build a new life in Europe, so these things are very necessary to improve her image to the outside world. I fully understand this, because if you want to gain the public opinion to have sympathy for you, you have to be diplomatic. This is much more important than to be honest about how good or bad the sex was. Secondly, she already told here that some of the anal scenes were painful for her, and she did them because of the money.

So keep on dreaming about how all the tiny girls with tight little asses want to have the biggest possible dicks inside them and how they love it, the laws of physics and biology teach something different. :roll:


karasek wrote:Why don't you try it yourself and ram a hammer or your fist into your ass for half an hour? I'm sure you will love the feeling and feel very liberated afterwards...
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Exactly! :lol:
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Re: Wiska

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu May 16, 2013 4:18 pm

was just a matter of time until bruno the emperor of morality put his 5 cents in and karasek the emperor of - i dont know of what yet -, maybe saxonia. :)

fuck guys... of course anal can be painful and some scenes are hard work for the girls. but if i look at her model sedcard, i suppose it will be hard to find a vaginal only scene of her, why? simply because she mostly enjoyed it. i didnt see any scene of her but for sure you will see in a scene if a models enjoys what she does, you can only act till a specific point. if you really hate what you do the viewer will see it and if porn girls hates what she does she will either stop or the producers will not work with her because the mood of a model is most important for a good scene. also often it is that way when a girl is aroused during sex she doesnt feel the pain and only the pleasure. but afterwards when not aroused anymore she feels pain.

it is always the same with women: when aroused they can be real beasts but afterwards they complain about everything or switch their opinions to what they think they can have maximum profit of it... not only in bed. :lol:

within last 1,5 years i worked with over 50 porn girls and i can tell you in a passionated porn movie and also back stage where the boys and girls are into each other is more truth and reality than any hollywood romance. till one point it is much fun but at some point i can turn into work, depending on kind of production and duration. amateur scenes are more natural than professional art stuff.

the best sex is where who you only know your partner since a few hours and push the right buttons. believe it or not.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Thu May 16, 2013 4:49 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:it is always the same with women: when aroused they can be real beasts but afterwards they complain about everything ...

Ah yes, that must be it! :roll: :roll: :roll: It's the model's fault when she will have medical problems afterwards. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Hopefully the models become aware of your views soon, so they can choose to work for others next time.
People who, unlike you, respect their health and integrity in the first place.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu May 16, 2013 5:08 pm

dont worry they become aware of my views as soon i slap their faces and asses. and till now they all loved my views. :lol:

end of discussion, i get sick debating with people who dont have a single imagination of biz insides and porn girls.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Thu May 16, 2013 6:29 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:i get sick debating with people who dont have a single imagination of biz insides and porn girls.

I have a very good view about the porn business. That's also why I know that there are some people working there who intoxicate this industry and give it a bad name because they think that the girls are objects that they can use, and the proof of this are their frustrations that they express like "it's always the same with women" and "they always complain afterwards about everything". Apparently there is a reason to complain afterwards, have you thought about that? Or maybe it would be a good idea to try these huge dildos or dicks pumped in your own ass for 20 minutes first, so you can decide for yourself if it's really such a nice feeling and that it's nonsense that girls complain about it afterwards, hm? :roll:

Of course there are also girls who really enjoy it, but they are not the ones who complain afterwards or the ones who mainly do this work because they need the money. And this last group is still the biggest one.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu May 16, 2013 6:59 pm

man you have no idea, you forget the biggest group of porn girls: the ones who do it for fun and money. these are the only ones who get jobs in the long run. girls who cant enjoy sex in front of a camera with a stranger do a couple of scenes and quit or dont get booked anymore. what some producer do with dap, giant dildos and other crazy things is a different story, unnatural things are tough work for girls of course who hardly will give pleasure. thats why i only do movies where girls can enjoy it and decide how far they would like to go. because this is the core of a good scene.

i have to admit my statement about women was a bit too general but i dont want to write novels and everytime i write something you get or want to get it into the wrong hole. just for you more precise: i respect women a lot in a playful way. i like to flirt with them, like to joke with them, like to have a good time with them, kiss them but i dont run after them. i am fair with them, if she respects me i respect her too, if she disrespects me or tries to piss my leg i kick her ass. there are many good girls in this world but also some very evil dragons who only manipulate and badmouth. i prefer company of confident playful girls more than of submissive men without selfrespect who always kiss a girls ass just because of the reason that she is female. btw you can keep your ass dildos to yourself or share them with karasek. :)
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Fri May 17, 2013 4:01 am

Am0rIn0 wrote:what some producer do with dap, giant dildos and other crazy things is a different story, unnatural things are tough work for girls of course who hardly will give pleasure. thats why i only do movies where girls can enjoy it and decide how far they would like to go. because this is the core of a good scene.

Well, that sounds already a lot better. Do you have a website with your stuff, or do you distribute only to other websites?


Am0rIn0 wrote:btw you can keep your ass dildos to yourself or share them with karasek. :)

Thanks, but I never share my ass dildos with other guys to be honest! :roll:
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Re: Wiska

Postby dap-addict on Fri May 17, 2013 11:57 am

karasek wrote:
Am0rIn0 wrote:she should say the full truth, that is a lot of fun to earn easy cash that way, getting fucked the hard way with lots of orgasms. all this diplomatic and political correct statememnts in some lines are unnecessary.

Yes, that's why almost all pornstars now come from poor Eastern European countries. They simply love it so much more to get banged by strangers and published wordwide than Western women. Because they are more liberal and sexually open than their Western sisters.

Pure cynics.
Facts are easy, though: 200-600 Euro are much more money in Czech, Hungary, Romania and Russia than they are in Germany, Netherlands, France and the U.K.
There with 1 dp shot in half a day a girl can earn more than their parents with 1 month or hard work.
And of course a vast majority of them do it for the money!
But as amorino tries to explain here on and on again they become only successful porn actresses (like Wiska) if they like it also most of them time.
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Re: Wiska

Postby sharkhunter on Fri May 17, 2013 6:17 pm

While I sympathise entirely with Wiska's plight - it's her body and she has the right to fuck anyone she pleases without someone telling her otherwise - I will reiterate the point I made earlier in this discussion that i don't buy the "the industry made me do it" line. There are multitudes of glamour babes who never go beyond opening their pink, yet the best of them who look good in front of a camera manage to get by.

Some of the the best and most successful models out there have never gone beyond lesbian stuff. Compared to Western Europe, what a girl can get for an ordinary softcore shoot will be way beyond what the average person will earn, so the "earning enough to out food on the kids' table" is argument that - for at least - doesn't run true.

She could have got by just doing straight glamour. She would have had a little more cash to spend by doing lesbian. Hell, she would have been earning more in a day than her countrypeople could earn in a month by doing straight oral and vaginal. But nearly every other vid I have seen of her is taking multiple cocks and have her arse opened up. She quite clearly enjoyed anal, and hard anal at that.

As other posters have argued, in this business those who don't want to do these things just won't - they'll never be right in front of the camera, and they'll just never get booked again. Wiska on the other hand fucked like a demon, more often than lot with a beaming smile on her face as she took two thick black rods up her shitter or took multiple thick white loads on her face. This is actually why she's one of my favorite models and why I enjoyed most of her scenes: she looked as if she was thoroughly enjoying it. My conclusion is that either she is lying about her "horrid" experiences, or is such a good actress that she can make something that she is not enjoying look like a lot of fun.
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Re: Wiska

Postby dap-addict on Fri May 17, 2013 10:47 pm

Some porn consumers just want to see this girls as victims, exploited poor Eastern European women. Guess it gives them some extra kink. :?
And it seems unacceptable to them to see these ladies as liberated women who turned their joy motivated by the money they get in addition into their job.

Wiska, btw, once when still active within the biz spoke openly about that aspect of liberation in some Ukrainian interviews, only when her asylum troubles started she changed for that anti-porn crusade track. :( Still, of course I wish her to win that case and be able to stay. From that point on she will be free enough to say openly what can be easily seen in most of her scenes, i.e. how much she just enjoyed it. :idea:
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