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Re: Wiska

Postby dutchy on Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:34 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:but i guess it will be hard to find a girl who got forced to do porn...


Wake up please.
Most of the girls in porn or prostitution are forced to do things they don't want to do.
Maybe they do sometimes things, they don't like because of the money.

Why is escortsite Zuzana.com closed? Yes, because of womentrade. There were a lot of well know pornstars on that site.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Am0rIn0 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:48 pm

pls read my posts more carefully. worked with dozen of porn girls and they all choose to do porn by her own free mind. sometimes it starts with a nude shooting and they get seduced and payed to do more, but this has nothing to do with getting forced. mostly it is the open minded girl next door who wants to earn some extra cash beside her normal job.

for example when actors like rocco put there dicks in non-anal girls assholes without warning during a boy/girl classic scene it is a different story and here i agree with you. the porn girls who get forced to do something they dont want without getting paid properly are often those who quit their career after such a bad experience.
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Re: Wiska

Postby dap-addict on Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:32 pm

sharkhunter wrote:However, and I am guessing some of you others might be thinking the same, her claim that she was somehow forced by circumstances to take up porn movies doesn't quite ring true.

At the time Wiska had given several TV and newspaper interviews in Ukraine telling all over how much she liked to shoot porn and that she does it for "educational reasons". Now she claims what seems political correct to her. Its not cleaver tactic, I think.

But it just shows how desperate she is to get asylum. For whatever reason, she`s afraid to go back to Ukraine. And thats reason enough to grant her a way to stay where she wants. The more as she wants to earn her life herself.

No idea what can be done. Czech autorities sure also can google her previous statements on porn. Gvt. changed meanwhile in Ukraine, but I doubt that helps her.
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Re: Wiska

Postby sharkhunter on Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:53 pm

dap-addict wrote:At the time Wiska had given several TV and newspaper interviews in Ukraine telling all over how much she liked to shoot porn and that she does it for "educational reasons". Now she claims what seems political correct to her. Its not cleaver tactic, I think.

But it just shows how desperate she is to get asylum. For whatever reason, she`s afraid to go back to Ukraine. And thats reason enough to grant her a way to stay where she wants. The more as she wants to earn her life herself.

No idea what can be done. Czech autorities sure also can google her previous statements on porn. Gvt. changed meanwhile in Ukraine, but I doubt that helps her.


Completely agreed with this.

I think it's a bad tactic as you say, as the opposing lawyers could dig up these previous statements and add "liar" to their long list of accusations. It would far better for her to not contradict anything she has said before, and rightly argue that she is being persecuted for doing something that is perfectly legal in most European countries.
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Re: Wiska

Postby utopiaa on Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:25 pm

Besides she never said she was forced to do porn, she just said she needed money and was offered to do porn so she did it.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Wiskus on Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:57 pm

I cannot believe that Europe rejects the mother of 3 children who need education, when winter is beginning, when she is threatened in her country and cannot return, and when sheis innocent of any illegal action regarding european laws.
If anybody deserves human rights to immigrate in Europe, it is Wiska and her family.
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Re: Wiska

Postby paroxysmia on Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:02 pm

Wiskus wrote:I cannot believe that Europe rejects the mother of 3 children who need education, when winter is beginning, when she is threatened in her country and cannot return, and when sheis innocent of any illegal action regarding european laws.
If anybody deserves human rights to immigrate in Europe, it is Wiska and her family.

I don't think there is a rule about that, it's a national decision. In France, there is a winter truce, from november to march, nobody can be expelled.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:32 am

dutchy wrote:Why is escortsite Zuzana.com closed? Yes, because of womentrade. There were a lot of well know pornstars on that site.

It was not closed because of "women trade", it was closed because of "human trafficking". The girls were probably not forced to fly to all those cities around Europe, but the problem was, that that website "supported" international prostitution, and international prostitution is ALWAYS a form of human trafficking according to EU rules, whether it is with the consent of the woman or not does not matter. In other words, it is illegal to call a girl in Czech Republic to come over and have sex with you for money, because that's already "human trafficking". If she does it for free it is completely legal. :roll:
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Re: Wiska

Postby dap-addict on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:59 am

dutchy wrote:
Am0rIn0 wrote:but i guess it will be hard to find a girl who got forced to do porn...


Wake up please.
Most of the girls in porn or prostitution are forced to do things they don't want to do.
Maybe they do sometimes things, they don't like because of the money.

Why is escortsite Zuzana.com closed? Yes, because of womentrade. There were a lot of well know pornstars on that site.

Another blank anti-porn statement here! :o :shock: :roll:
About Zusanna.com Bruno wrote it all, already.

As for Wiska, she even didnt porn because she needed money, she was introduced by her later husband and they both were swingers before. At least that is what she said when still living in Ukraine. She did it because she liked it and you see it also in her scenes. There might be an element of emotional force on the side of her bf and later husband, but thats if at all a delicate intimate thing haveing nothing to do with forced porn work etc.
I am convinced Wiskas story is much more complicated and might have also a link with her husbands business. She hinted it herself when fleeing to Czech.

What now happens is bad tactics, maybe due to her Ukrainian women right supporters. But instead of supporting every persons right to work in porn or prostitution on their free will and choose the way to live and earn money as an individual they and Wiska herself now play the anti porn game. :x

If that doenst work in Czech its bad for Wiska but a good sign overall - as porn is completely legal in Czech and Prague is currently re-establishing itself as a good porn production choice.

For Wiska herself I still hope for all the best and that she can stay. A lot of her defense choices are sure due to the enormous pressure she feels as a mother of 3.
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Re: Wiska

Postby claudia_rossi_fan_1 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:02 pm

Those Czech and Ukranian bureaucrats, I d like to check their hard drives and browsing history on their computers, it would put the i in irony.

When it comes to sex and porn, the level of hypocrsy remains higher than ever.

No evolution, more like regression.

So sad.

I hope it turns out ok but it doesn't look good ...
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:30 pm

dap-addict wrote:As for Wiska, she even didnt porn because she needed money,

She said that she ALSO did it because she needed to support herself and her son, so it was definitely one of the reasons.
I also think that money is the most important reason why most girls start with porn.
After some scenes, some girls start to like it, and they continue. Others quit or become g/g or solo models.
Don't forget also, that young girls (18+) are like all young people, they like to experiment with sex and/or drugs.
And if you can even get money for this and fuck different handsome guys, this is only a plus for them! :wink:
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Re: Wiska

Postby dap-addict on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:55 am

Wiska started porn with her bf/later husband.
As far as I know he had already a quite prospering biz when she jumped into scenes with other studs.
No idea why she did it but all she said back in the Ukraine didnt sound like money as a main driving reason. Later, however, there was a time she/they needed money and thus probabely carried it on. Of course most girls do it because of the money, but there are things they cannot fake on set and bts.

I`d strongly prefer Wiska to stand up and say I wanted money, I enjoy sex, I choose that way of income, that job, thats it and now I am persecuted for it.
But she chose the anti-porn strategy. :x :(

But much worse as claudia_rossi_fan put out is the hypocrisy of burocrats, politics, society as a whole when it comes to sex and porn. Wiska is just the latest victim. :cry:
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Re: Wiska

Postby ubertop on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:37 am

Wiska, the true woman that Europe does not want to accept.
Because she is a living woman and the loving mother of her 3 children.
Because Europe is a bunch of dead countries, with collapsing demography, ruled by prostitutes.
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Re: Wiska

Postby Bruno on Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:08 am

dap-addict wrote:Wiska started porn with her bf/later husband.
No idea why she did it but all she said back in the Ukraine didnt sound like money as a main driving reason. Later, however, there was a time she/they needed money and thus probabely carried it on. Of course most girls do it because of the money, but there are things they cannot fake on set and bts.

It's written in this article:
http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/ukrayinska-pornoaktrisa-boyitsya-povertatisya-dodomu-cherez-nayizdi-komunistiv.html

In English:
"Earlier she repeatedly said that she had to work in porn, because she was left alone with the baby and she needed the money (she started acting in the 2000s, after her husband went to prison)."


So the most logical explanation is, that her income suddenly disappeared because her man was taken into prison, and with a little child she needed the money. And I think money is the main reason that most girls in Russia and Ukraine start with this work. After all, it is highly unlikely that girls from there are much more nymphomaniac than girls from other countries! :roll:
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Re: Wiska

Postby claudia_rossi_fan_1 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:53 am

After all, it is very likely that girls from there are much more at ease witht their bodies and sex than girls from other countries!


Fixed that for you.

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