PremiumBukkake.com Discussion Thread

[proglotay]

Agree, last update (other than BTS) was a week ago.
Trailing content and not delivering is just poor customer relations.

[gbman2k7]

Any you guy's read about deepfake? It wont be long tell we see celebrities doing "gokkuns" XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/deepfakes/

https://gfycat.com/klutzydependentclownanemonefish one with cara delevingne

Soon tech will improve greatly and this stuff will start looking so real that it would be hard to tell the difference...
Gokkun with Kate upton or Margot Robbie will soon be a thing, kind off...

[singularis]

JamesTT wrote:
I downloaded the Morgana scene from Putalocura in HD (720p) and noticed the video quality is so much better than the quality of the PB scenes (judging from the trailers on PB site). The framerate and/or bitrate seems really high which makes it super smooth and crisp. So can someone tell me - are PB scenes available in this quality? And if not, why the hell not?!

Is anyone able to answer this please? Krull?


Yes the "framerate and/or bitrate" in the latest Putalocura videos is double that of PB which makes them much more "smooth and crisp", but also many of the PB trailers are 50 fps instead of 25 fps (frames per second) as used in the full scene releases. If you are using "VLC media player" you can easily verify this is the case by looking at the video codec info.

Here is a very good example of the difference in video quality betwen 25 fps and 50 fps!
25 fps vs 50 fps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub1t9bGzNM8

Compare the trailer of "NICOLE LOVE #1" (which is 50 fps) to the full scene (only 25 fps) and and you can see the trailer is smoother and crisper video, especially noticeable in slow motion playback which is much better!

So yes all the PB scenes filmed by Torbe seems to be available in this higher video quality! It realy would be a shame if PB didnt start to release all the new 1080p scenes in the highest possible quality available !
Also all the old classic PB scenes must be re released in the original 50 fps quality.
This is also a wise decision business wise, because many canceled members would have to return to the PB and start download their favorite scenes again!

The dissadvantage would be the bigger file size, but still not nearly as big as those 4K UHD files filmed by Georgio.

Also all members with ordinary (1920x1080p) monitors would get the most out of their screens.

So if PB did this it would be a win win situation for everybody, and i think all agree on a PREMIUM bukkake is very visual dependent and therefor deserve the best possible video quality.

So all PB members should demand PB doing this upgrade very soon!

krull wrote:
I must admit I've never really noticed any issues with the video quality of any of the PB scenes, I found them very watchable. I also can't see any difference between the comparison video either, maybe my eyes are just shitty, and old or something...

I beleive you are pretty alone in that regard of not seeing any issues. But I agree with you the PB scenes is very watchable as it is, but so is also an old VHS casette.
But this does not say anything of the actual video quality and just being watchable isn't good enough for me.

The fact is the PB scenes only have a frame rate of 25 fps, this is a relic of the past and should be avoided, actually 25 fps is so low it can trigger a epileptic seizure attack.

As JamesTT wrote the new Putalocura scenes (despite being only 720p) "is so much better than the quality of the PB scenes".
The reason for this is because the frame rate is 50 fps, double that of PBs 25 fps.

Many pornsites is making the leap to 50 fps Putalocura is one, Dogfart is another.

PB is premium and should not lag behind, it should be in the frontline!
PB trailers already is in 50 fps so the leap should be easy!

I don't agree with your reasoning, or facts about frame rates. Regular Hollywood movies are traditionally shot in 24fps and nobody is having seizures. In the analog days, and those still using it, Pal format for television is 25fps, North American standard TV is 29.97fps, still not seeing common seizures. But I'm not an expert on epilepsy. Doubling the frame rate to 48 or 50 is not really giving you the higher quality. In fact sometimes it looks strange to have the extra frames if played at regular speed. The most value I see in shooting double the frame rate is that you can play slow motion at half the speed with still smooth motion and no jitter due to no loss of frames. I really don't think this is the problem. I think the problem is the encoding when they are exporting, but I couldn't say without seeing their settings. I'm very confident that is the source of the problem though, not frame rate.

I dont claim to be an expert on either seizures or video quality but i once vitnessed a seizure attack in the cinema and i know the 24 fps cinema flicker is a strain on my eyes especially in the fast moving action scenes. Modern TVs solves these issues by frame doubling or interlacing and such.

And you said it yourself:
"The most value I see in shooting double the frame rate is that you can play slow motion at half the speed with still smooth motion and no jitter due to no loss of frames" also a very big benefit in bukkake movies.

Go see for yourself the new Putalocura scenes are shoot in 50 fps (looking great not strange). I also know most PB trailers are 50 fps and looking crisper and smoother than the full scene releases!

Obviously PB scenes should be released in its original 50 fps quality!

[sgr_sgr]

Any you guy's read about deepfake? It wont be long tell we see celebrities doing "gokkuns" XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/deepfakes/

https://gfycat.com/klutzydependentclownanemonefish one with cara delevingne

Soon tech will improve greatly and this stuff will start looking so real that it would be hard to tell the difference...
Gokkun with Kate upton or Margot Robbie will soon be a thing, kind off...

I red about it today and i´m thrilled by the idea to create any porn movie we want with mainstram-actresses. There is another
innovation called "Lyrebird", (https://lyrebird.ai/) which allows to create a digital voice of a certain human voice, it´s just
awesome but dangerous too, just think about a perfect faked video of Trump or Kim Jong-Un etc.

Here is a Natalie Portman Deepfake, it´s unbelievable: https://gfycat.com/FinishedFabulousHornet

[gbman2k7]

Any you guy's read about deepfake? It wont be long tell we see celebrities doing "gokkuns" XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/deepfakes/

https://gfycat.com/klutzydependentclownanemonefish one with cara delevingne

Soon tech will improve greatly and this stuff will start looking so real that it would be hard to tell the difference...
Gokkun with Kate upton or Margot Robbie will soon be a thing, kind off...

I red about it today and i´m thrilled by the idea to create any porn movie we want with mainstram-actresses. There is another
innovation called "Lyrebird", (https://lyrebird.ai/) which allows to create a digital voice of a certain human voice, it´s just
awesome but dangerous too, just think about a perfect faked video of Trump or Kim Jong-Un etc.

Here is a Natalie Portman Deepfake, it´s unbelievable: https://gfycat.com/FinishedFabulousHornet

My main concern is just oversaturation of fake stuff, to the point where nobody wants to see pornstars cause they can see there favorite model/celeb to hardcore stuff. The future is going to be scary yet interesting...Still amazed how they get the face to react to the pornstars expressions such as moaning or gasping with hardly any visual artifacts in some of the well done ones, being this is new and still in development...it wont be long till big companies start using this tech and find accurate body doubles, there is no law against it and it will be a matter of time where our phones will have the processing power to do this on the fly with one pic of someone we find hot.

As cool as this is there will come a point were people will crave authentic porn and genuine reactions of disgust from swallow 20 loads and such or the cum sluts who lap it up with glee...

[olga cabaeva]

Twitter@melodypleasure
Relativly new dutch girl. She will be in March in Barcelona. Maybe she can visit Madrid too

[olga cabaeva]

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23788&start=30#p390414
I guess,she will be next one as PB started to book GGG/LP stars.

epizoic ,please,have a look on putalocura . I think Torbe booked 2-3 american girls in the past.

Oh my ..i hope not.

are you waiting for girls like her? Glam published models don't shoot hardcore. Angela was nice exeption

[gbman2k7]

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23788&start=30#p390414
I guess,she will be next one as PB started to book GGG/LP stars.

epizoic ,please,have a look on putalocura . I think Torbe booked 2-3 american girls in the past.

Oh my ..i hope not.

are you waiting for girls like her? Glam published models don't shoot hardcore. Angela was nice exeption

Wow, if Torbe can get a girl like this. I'll pay 500 just for the scene if it is shot well with over 80 loads.

[sartori]

yes, there is a connection between ggg, lp (and PB?) because of Stefano. Sometimes is good: Teen girls like Ria Sun or Rebecca Volpetti are real cute.
But i miss the german teen girls at ggg like Lana or Luisa.
Unfortunately there is no chance für Lia-Louise, i guess. She got a new boyfriend and she is more picky now!

Nevertheless i would like to take part at PB (i doo sometimes for ggg(, but the announcement are too short-termed. So Torbe, please invite us much earlier

[sgr_sgr]

(...) ...it wont be long till big companies start using this tech and find accurate body doubles, there is no law against it and it will be a matter of time where our phones will have the processing power to do this on the fly with one pic of someone we find hot. (...)

Haha, you´re 100 percent right! This new technoligy is alarming, scary, frightening, but porn has always been a force of invention. And concerning what you said about real and fake porn: I don´t think, real porn will ever get gratuitous, because we cannot use "Deepfakes" without real porn video footage, if i understood correctly ... / ... YET!!! Haha, sorry ...

[thebowl]

[quote="singularis"
JamesTT wrote:
I downloaded the Morgana scene from Putalocura in HD (720p) and noticed the video quality is so much better than the quality of the PB scenes (judging from the trailers on PB site). The framerate and/or bitrate seems really high which makes it super smooth and crisp. So can someone tell me - are PB scenes available in this quality? And if not, why the hell not?!

Is anyone able to answer this please? Krull?


Yes the "framerate and/or bitrate" in the latest Putalocura videos is double that of PB which makes them much more "smooth and crisp", but also many of the PB trailers are 50 fps instead of 25 fps (frames per second) as used in the full scene releases. If you are using "VLC media player" you can easily verify this is the case by looking at the video codec info.

Here is a very good example of the difference in video quality betwen 25 fps and 50 fps!
25 fps vs 50 fps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub1t9bGzNM8

Compare the trailer of "NICOLE LOVE #1" (which is 50 fps) to the full scene (only 25 fps) and and you can see the trailer is smoother and crisper video, especially noticeable in slow motion playback which is much better!

So yes all the PB scenes filmed by Torbe seems to be available in this higher video quality! It realy would be a shame if PB didnt start to release all the new 1080p scenes in the highest possible quality available !
Also all the old classic PB scenes must be re released in the original 50 fps quality.
This is also a wise decision business wise, because many canceled members would have to return to the PB and start download their favorite scenes again!

The dissadvantage would be the bigger file size, but still not nearly as big as those 4K UHD files filmed by Georgio.

Also all members with ordinary (1920x1080p) monitors would get the most out of their screens.

So if PB did this it would be a win win situation for everybody, and i think all agree on a PREMIUM bukkake is very visual dependent and therefor deserve the best possible video quality.

So all PB members should demand PB doing this upgrade very soon!

krull wrote:
I must admit I've never really noticed any issues with the video quality of any of the PB scenes, I found them very watchable. I also can't see any difference between the comparison video either, maybe my eyes are just shitty, and old or

I dont claim to be an expert on either seizures or video quality but i once vitnessed a seizure attack in the cinema and i know the 24 fps cinema flicker is a strain on my eyes especially in the fast moving action scenes. Modern TVs solves these issues by frame doubling or interlacing and such.

And you said it yourself:
"The most value I see in shooting double the frame rate is that you can play slow motion at half the speed with still smooth motion and no jitter due to no loss of frames" also a very big benefit in bukkake movies.

Go see for yourself the new Putalocura scenes are shoot in 50 fps (looking great not strange). I also know most PB trailers are 50 fps and looking crisper and smoother than the full scene releases!

Obviously PB scenes should be released in its original 50 fps quality

This happens to be my profession and I can say that you are barking up the wrong tree in basing the source of the problem on frame rate. The 24fps does not create a flicker that would cause seizures. What I meant by the benefit of doubling the frame rate to 50 or 48 is because of you were to slow the video down 50% on 24fps video you are essentially sitting on a frame for longer than intended, meaning video would appear to stay still briefly between frames. By doubling the frame rate, you can slow to 50% and have the video play back the same way it would frame - wise as it would at regular speed, just slower. In fact, watching 48fps at regular speed is more likely to cause discomfort and many filmmakers won't film at that rate because people don't like the look of it. But Torre has been using slow motion in his scenes at Putalocura, so that is why he is likely filming at that rate. I just don't think it is the source of the problem. Even at 24 or 25fps, with a faster shutter speed you can reduce motion blur. Anyway, I'm not going to go on about this anymore. Im sure we'd all prefer to discuss the next girl to take 50 loads than 50fps.

[JamesTT]

This happens to be my profession and I can say that you are barking up the wrong tree in basing the source of the problem on frame rate. The 24fps does not create a flicker that would cause seizures. What I meant by the benefit of doubling the frame rate to 50 or 48 is because of you were to slow the video down 50% on 24fps video you are essentially sitting on a frame for longer than intended, meaning video would appear to stay still briefly between frames. By doubling the frame rate, you can slow to 50% and have the video play back the same way it would frame - wise as it would at regular speed, just slower. In fact, watching 48fps at regular speed is more likely to cause discomfort and many filmmakers won't film at that rate because people don't like the look of it. But Torre has been using slow motion in his scenes at Putalocura, so that is why he is likely filming at that rate. I just don't think it is the source of the problem. Even at 24 or 25fps, with a faster shutter speed you can reduce motion blur. Anyway, I'm not going to go on about this anymore. Im sure we'd all prefer to discuss the next girl to take 50 loads than 50fps.

I don’t want to keep on going on about it either - if Torbe fixed the issue, that would solve it and we could concentrate on girls drinking lots of cum! But surely, as a professional, you can tell that there is obviously a problem with the video quality of these scenes? It seems they (at least the older scenes) are being shot correctly, however the videos are not being made available in the correct framerate and/or bitrate. As has been said, the trailers for lots of these scenes look fine - smooth and crisp video quality (as can be seen in the preview video on the signup page https://join.premiumbukkake.com/signup/ ... LjA&step=2). However, the actual final scene is choppy and juddery, so obviously the framerate or bitrate is way too low.

The recent Barbara Bieber scenes are terrible - blurry, choppy, lots of motion judder etc. I’m amazed that people can’t see this. I’m not even asking for super amazing 4k 100fps whatever - resolution isn’t the issue, it’s the framerate and/or bitrate being too low.

[masche]

I've just contacted a very amateur model who just got into porn. She's Lily Moon https://mobile.twitter.com/Lily_Moonxx.
This is the conversation I had with her

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Please Torbe get in touch with her!

[thebowl]

This happens to be my profession and I can say that you are barking up the wrong tree in basing the source of the problem on frame rate. The 24fps does not create a flicker that would cause seizures. What I meant by the benefit of doubling the frame rate to 50 or 48 is because of you were to slow the video down 50% on 24fps video you are essentially sitting on a frame for longer than intended, meaning video would appear to stay still briefly between frames. By doubling the frame rate, you can slow to 50% and have the video play back the same way it would frame - wise as it would at regular speed, just slower. In fact, watching 48fps at regular speed is more likely to cause discomfort and many filmmakers won't film at that rate because people don't like the look of it. But Torre has been using slow motion in his scenes at Putalocura, so that is why he is likely filming at that rate. I just don't think it is the source of the problem. Even at 24 or 25fps, with a faster shutter speed you can reduce motion blur. Anyway, I'm not going to go on about this anymore. Im sure we'd all prefer to discuss the next girl to take 50 loads than 50fps.

I don’t want to keep on going on about it either - if Torbe fixed the issue, that would solve it and we could concentrate on girls drinking lots of cum! But surely, as a professional, you can tell that there is obviously a problem with the video quality of these scenes? It seems they (at least the older scenes) are being shot correctly, however the videos are not being made available in the correct framerate and/or bitrate. As has been said, the trailers for lots of these scenes look fine - smooth and crisp video quality (as can be seen in the preview video on the signup page https://join.premiumbukkake.com/signup/ ... LjA&step=2). However, the actual final scene is choppy and juddery, so obviously the framerate or bitrate is way too low.

The recent Barbara Bieber scenes are terrible - blurry, choppy, lots of motion judder etc. I’m amazed that people can’t see this. I’m not even asking for super amazing 4k 100fps whatever - resolution isn’t the issue, it’s the framerate and/or bitrate being too low.

All I can say again is this is not a frame rate issue, if you can message me I can try to see what you are actually experiencing. I just compared the trailer on the front page, to the actual video. The trailer has interlaced footage causing horizontal lines that are especially visible with more movement. This is probably either a playback setting or it has been exported as 1080i instead of 1080p. The actual video does not have this, but for me they stream horribly. The image looks fine but they are always stalling. That would lead me to think the bitrate is actually too high for streaming. I have compared to a Nina scene and do not see this huge difference you refer to but I swear frame rate has nothing to do with it. Or Torre has bought a cheaper camera that shoots 1080i and he has to de-interlace it in post. But I really doubt that. You almost can't find something that shoots 1080i.

[xtripsnova]

What happened with Julia's update?
Not appearing on the preview page even, does that mean it has been retrieved?