PremiumBukkake.com Discussion Thread

[krull]

Reading some more forums tweets and comments. There was a mention of LIVE stream for VIP members. So videos are there (if VIP are not total morons and did screencap). My spanish is not that great I had to read few times before I will understand and translation totally screws the meaning.. Question is who will leak them first.

VIP members of where??

[Dr Proctor]

Reading some more forums tweets and comments. There was a mention of LIVE stream for VIP members. So videos are there (if VIP are not total morons and did screencap). My spanish is not that great I had to read few times before I will understand and translation totally screws the meaning.. Question is who will leak them first.

VIP members of where??

Torbes own VIPs on his site. Guess you had to pay much more for that. Again it is how I understood from forums.

[almagr]

Reading some more forums tweets and comments. There was a mention of LIVE stream for VIP members.

Yeah, I read it. It's just another hypothesis from guys which didn't understand why they don't see these videos. It's the worst guess ever Torbe made video for *** and gave all rights for it to him. That's what we know now. *** had his own site or was going to have. And this site is premiumbukkake apparently.

[Dr Proctor]

Reading some more forums tweets and comments. There was a mention of LIVE stream for VIP members.

Yeah, I read it. It's just another hypothesis from guys which didn't understand why they don't see these videos. It's the worst guess ever Torbe made video for *** and gave all rights for it to him. That's what we know now. *** had his own site or was going to have. And this site is premiumbukkake apparently.

That is what I was saying since a begining. Everyone was like....NO Torbe premised release...this means it was his. I was always saying those were private videos. Also did you noticed Russian flag on that page. Do you see russian language on Torbe site:))NO:) So since both figures are in jail. I guess no release. Until their release:( BTW domain registered in Czech republic. (language support also).

[pedro212]

OK i found this article and it looks interesting because it is only about Bukkake and Ukraine girls.

http://www.eldiario.es/sociedad/Torbe-e ... 47801.html

I give you a little summary and translation of what i think is relevant, they always said in this newspaper that all they write it is from Police report.
Also they said that the police are using Phone tapping to prove allegation of human traffic, the police was listening Torbe phone, employee phone, *** phone etc...and not for the last 2 weeks but probably for month. So all this is about phone conversation and not looks good.

The video were supposed to be for ***, the Ukrainian market, were it is illegal to make porno.

Torbe get for every video 7000€ from *** who claimed to have only a financial involvement, they do not say if the money is for the production or only for Torbe.

This is what one of the cameraman or technician name Mario say to another on the phone : "I just ... I do not know, but I do not want to record cries and cries and cries and cries [...] in the subject that ... because I feel like I'm an asshole and it affects me ... it burns me to the hair, no ... to record real tears this is not me ... ".

According to the summary of the police they were a very important number of indignities suffered by the girls, and there is supposed to be an important number of conversation between Torbe employee saying that they were forced to do it.

Also this report of the Brigade Against Trafficking in Human brings in highlights the ignorance that the victims were on the type of videos that were to participate. The report draws the Ukrainian woman (Mila) who worked for the plot as the one who was in charge of the young: "It is the person who is responsible for receiving women arriving from Ukraine, not telling the truth of what they have to perform until the last moment, reserving that information so like this the girl do not decide to leave and stay without recording the scene. " If a girl refused to carry out the proposal sexual practice, Mila was in charge of employing a whole of "series of tricks" with the sole purpose of recordings, and "she is doing everything *** demands without any scruples".

So this is the kind of proof that they are using to tell that they were forced to do the bukkake and it as sexual exploitation and human traffic.

About the relation between Torbe and *** Malynovsky, the police investigation incorporates the results of wiretaps conducted in the working environment of Torbe and also include conversations and messages crossed with his Ukrainian partner.

So it shows that Torbe was very late according to the date of delivery for the porno materials, and apparently *** was putting pressure on Torbe and his employee who were very stress about the situation according to wiretap.
This is a discussion between Torbe and *** on Whatssap : "In my country leave a project half is comparable to treason (...). To be fighting with gun causes stress. But it is my past and my today."

Torbe interpret the words of his partner as a threat, and it seems that he used this words to keep the employee who do not want to work in the company anymore because of the situation and the materials shooting :"You do not know the consequences of what you just did I just write *** and told me that the traitors are dead".

*** definitely looks like a legit businessman in Ukraine for sure, and his relation with Torbe seems to be pretty intense, finally maybe he is better in jail than dead, who knows?

Finally they also said that Torbe is speaking on the phone about different money transaction which can be considerate as money laundry.

This is one of the most precise description of what the police have against Torbe i found, and if it is true, it looks bad and bad for him.
Also according to this newspaper, the video have never been sent to ***, so the police have the Bukkakes, so it looks like we will never seen it, or maybe if Torbe is judge innocent but he can be in years so...

[almagr]

NO Torbe premised release...this means it was his

And he said to Igor that he hopes to release in April. HE HOPES! Wasn't he sure when release on his site? Why? Yes he announced the release with Angela in April. But why do you think it should be on putalocura? I'm almost sure now Torbe said about the release on *** site... And he hoped because *** site wasn't finished then.

[almagr]

OK i found this article and it looks interesting because it is only about Bukkake and Ukraine girls

Thank you, I read this article yet but wasn't able to understand it in detail then.

[pedro212]

Also i watch the interview of Maria Lapierda and it seems that there is 2 girls underaged charging Torbe, not one as i thought

[killar83]

fuck, to see if with a little luck you can access the page *** and begin to see the BKK of Ukrainian please as someone knows something about the videos tell in this forum thanks

[olga cabaeva]

Also i watch the interview of Maria Lapierda and it seems that there is 2 girls underaged charging Torbe, not one as i thought

Maria told that there were no underaged girls. She think Torbe was cheated. And,yes,she knows he had a contact with football players by twitter and watsap. Yes,he brought girls from abroad but they were elder then 18!
http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 25114.html
It's just one underaged girl figurated here as well
http://www.vandal.net/foro/cgi-bin/foro ... eplica=291
She sent herself pix to Torbe...
http://www.vandal.net/foro/cgi-bin/foro ... eplica=218
Underaged girl reported that Torbe did videos with her for the football players. There is a link on the article on this forum

[olga cabaeva]

http://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/201 ... 175_0.html
Marta(Carlota Teen/Penelope Cum) told Torbe met her and offered 200€ to fuck without filming. She acepted because she needed money. After he shot her for free ,first scene for putalocura. But she worked for him 1,5 month. She denouced him because she was working without a contract and was infected of chlamidia once.
http://torbe.es/chicas-de-torbe/carlota ... e-estallar
Here Torbe wrote Carlota/Penelope seems to be bipolar .
Have a look on comments. She shot for FaKing for 200€ by a scene. And she also went to work for Cumlouder,which seems to make a concurence of PL with webcamming.

[olga cabaeva]

Ок. , just watched spanish programm on vk . The confusion with a contract came from material about webcam girls! Torbe did not do any contract to them,they earned like 0,20€ by minute and he paid them in cash. Ucranian girls were brought in Madrid just for bukkake,nothing else. So..I really don't understand why spanish girls worked in such a bad conditions if they didn't have any contract with PL,they were free to go when they want ,I think
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0W3rdIccQU
This one...

[krull]

I feel like we are going around in circles here pedro... that eldiario piece is another old article from 11th June, all of this kind of stuff came after the De Gea "scandal" was revealed in the press, it is now nearly July!

*** was setting up the premiumbukkake site and the profits were to be made 50/50, so possibly there was going to be cross partnership with PL and *** so the videos could be released for both places. I said before that maybe PL members would be able to sign into premiumbukkake with their PL logins. Whatever the case, those videos were to be made PUBLIC for definite, otherwise why advertise them on PL at all?



Maria Lapiedra said there is just one underage girl who tricked him with a fake ID (TP1) and that *** is supposed to be a legit businessman like you say. *** got upset because Torbe said that one his co-workers (just one) had left due to stress and he was urging Torbe to get the videos to him faster. Some people say that Torbe saw it was a threat, others not so much, it doesn't appear to be clear cut. Torbe defends *** to the judge also, if he felt he was in danger why not say so? So maybe like you say the videos never got to him and the police have them.. BUT if you look at the premiumbukkake pictures, they are screencaps from the videos... so maybe there are copies. When TP1 gave her statement to the police, she talked about hearing Torbe on the phone discussing the Ukrainian girls coming to Spain to film the scenes, that's why they knew about it in advance. Again, talking about the Ukrainians like they were all stupid and were easily duped, it seems insulting and nonsense to me to suggest that they were all silly little girls who did not know anything, especially when you add Angela to the mix...

Still.. these articles make various claims and contradictions about details, some of them appear to be just writing bs.. I saw an article claiming Torbe lured a 14 year old to his home then locked her in the bedroom and forced her to have anal sex... wtf?? I think the press will write all this sensationalism and quite blatantly rubbish pieces because they can and because people love a scandal and can rally the women's rights activists, feminists etc who automatically consider Torbe to be guilty because he makes pornography. Look at Britain a few years ago, they had newspapers tapping people's phones to get stories and were writing such rubbish in some places that there was a big public court case about it and a major inquiry that led to recommendations to reform the freedom of press in the country but most of this stuff was never implemented and papers like the Daily Mail, The Mirror etc are still writing such sensationalist articles devoid many facts in order to sell papers! So to me it seems like a similar thing in Spanish press, all such details to make Torbe a bogeyman that everyone can hate regardless of the fact that he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

I'm not having a go at you pedro.. just everytime I read these articles about Torbe I just see more and more bs all the time and I see red, especially because of what we know in this thread!

[krull]

This was literally just posted fresh today, Antena 3 talking about the declarations of some of the crew (including the cameraman Mario) to the judge:

http://www.antena3.com/programas/espejo ... 41ccc.html

[edit]

More... Interview with "Conrad Son" another porn producer who has worked with Torbe saying that Torbe or anyone else in the industry would never do anything without consent of the actress:

http://www.antena3.com/programas/espejo ... 41b3a.html

This is most interesting, an interview with Torbe just days before he was arrested:

http://www.antena3.com/programas/espejo ... a6452.html

Obviously only those who speak Spanish can understand the videos...

[almagr]

I said before that maybe PL members would be able to sign into premiumbukkake with their PL logins

No they are not able to sign. I asked a guy who had PL membership to enter on premiumbukkake...