Carolina Abril

[Am0rIn0]

even you should know that the "little ones" are more flexible to changes than the "big dinosaurs".

adapt to what? to mainstream anal? i would rather occupy the niches. once again, the variety of porn is in opposite to your mind very wide.

[dap-addict]

i requested her in april or may for 450 eur for a bg and solo scene from a spanish agency, carolina abril agreed for that price. in june out of the blue she suddenly (after she met pw in barcelona?) wanted 800 eur. of course i canceled as her looks is imo just 8/10 overall.

This says a lot!
It happens again and again that once a girl gets payed really high fees - be it by Pierre, Rocco shooting in Piter earlier or Piter girls travveling to Budapest - start asking the same prices from everybody. They just try to earn more!
Its perfectly fine, but it often doenst work. If they drop out of the biz de-motivated fast its us fans paying the price. But still, in general, porn biz regulates itself.

With Caroline Abrils looks, talent and abilities I doubt she will be able to retain 800 euro for pussy only. I might be worng, though. Just a fan, what do I know!

[campeon]

C´mon Mr Reid. Sometimes you don't need the moderators to tell you if what you do is right or wrong. You are an adult, and should know for yourself if this information harms Carolina, without bringing anything of value to you or to the fórum.

By the wat: I have been reading what Pierre has said about Caroline. He has never said that she did not work two years ago as escort for Conrad Son in that place. And if you wanted to give him that information, as a personal favour to him, you can always send him a Private Message.

You've done what you've done, for the obvious reasons.... it says a lot about you.

As I said, you may have your opinión about what Carolina must ask for a scene. She may have another. If you don't agree, then each of you gets on with their lives.

This is like you run a Football team and you think that a particular player should not get paid more than whatever. Good, sign somebody else.

It is the difference between doing bussiness as a man, and the other thing that has its name, and I won't say.

[campeon]

An actress must have a good resume of works done to ask many money, and still she doesn't have it. She have few scenes and not even speak english. Why do i have to pay her more money than other more beautiful girls with greater trajectory in this biz? For this reason, i still say she is bad advised. She must to do more scenes with normal prices like other girls if she want to be a pornstar and ask good rates.

Basically, that is her fucking problem. Got it?

[Robin]

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[Am0rIn0]

thx for interesting link!

anal is on 2nd place in russia (which is well known for his paying clients rather than file sharing and pirating ) and in top 10 of germany and france.

in main markets like the usa, japan, uk, spain, italy and japan anal isnt even listed in top10.

teen and milf includes bg classic of course so it is no wonder that ruseful is that successful.

hope this enlightens you my friend.

[ChuteLubrique]

Amorino let me enlighten you and I suggest we open a different thread on porn tastes. Here are some data from search engines related to porn. You can search per country and see what your target market is. I think this may change your mind.

http://www.pornmd.com/sex-search#

I think that search engine must be flawed. DAP doesn't even make it into the list of top-10 search terms.

DAP-addict certainly won't give it much credence.

CL

[Camarillobrillo]

Looks like Anal and "No limits multiple anal stunt porn" is falling a bit out of fashion...Go figure.
As for me, I'll not partecipate in the discussion, as i mainly watch softcore these days...

[Pierre Woodman]

i requested her in april or may for 450 eur for a bg and solo scene from a spanish agency, carolina abril agreed for that price. in june out of the blue she suddenly (after she met pw in barcelona?) wanted 800 eur. of course i canceled as her looks is imo just 8/10 overall.

And now it's my fault if it takes you 3 months to shoot a girl !!!

Carolina Abril just priced herself out of your budget and so will many more new babes and that is called "eliminating" the competition. There is a new porn business reality and a few production companies will not make it and will be watching from the sidelines.

Absolutly ...

however, I remember how a few months ago on her twitter said me than in Budapest was paid good, but not in Spain, and now you say that she was go back to Spain because no one wanted pay her good rates...

She worked only with me in Budapest ...

He has never said that she did not work two years ago as escort for Conrad Son in that place. And if you wanted to give him that information, as a personal favour to him, you can always send him a Private Message.

Don't worry she told me all about her from the money she got with Torbes, the life she had before and much more that probabily no one knows here ... but yes some people need deseperatly to be mean and always put on the table what they can to give them pain in the heart.
For me same category than those who send link on FB or DVDs to family !!!

Carolina Abril is a very nice person, it tooks me two years to catch her and it's not with a nice amount of money I got her because in Valencia she didn't want get paid ... Just we became friends and I think we like each others, nothing so complicate.
It's true anyway that now when she works for me she gets good money but I'm sure 70% of the business can give her the same, just maybe they don't want or she doesnt' want them ... Not my fault, she's a big girl able to decide everything by herself !!!

PW

[dap-addict]

I guess Pierr defends her position because he already has several anal scenes with her, therefore fans don't have too many sites where see her. And this should not be. The Important people should recommend to her work for normal prices and everybody (she included) would benefit. Doing a few scenes she will never going to go far in this biz.

Did you consider she may do it just to pay her bills?
Maybe she doesnt want a porn career at all?
We all know that working for Pierre opens other oportunities, too.
I understand your point of course. Your argumentation is very fan friendly, too. But basically we all have to face the fact that Pierre catches many girls first and offers them some intersting deal. His competitors task is to scout talent as fast as he does and offer them lots of jobs or options to pay their bills, too.

Problem might be talent getting scarce not only in Spain. But again...at least in Russia there are hundreds of willing girls waiting for easy money and visas!
Your fans will be very happy if you introduce them to the porn market and make them available at lots of productions!

[Am0rIn0]

And now it's my fault if it takes you 3 months to shoot a girl !!!

not your fault, it is just once again very strange. but if i remember right she first wanted to stop bg and do lez only and than switched back to bg for special price after meeting you. for me it is fine, maybe because she won that porn big brother in spain she has some publicity and as long she can make living without bg for regular price it is good for her and her own decision.

[Am0rIn0]

Amorino let me enlighten you and I suggest we open a different thread on porn tastes. Here are some data from search engines related to porn. You can search per country and see what your target market is. I think this may change your mind.

http://www.pornmd.com/sex-search#

I think that search engine must be flawed. DAP doesn't even make it into the list of top-10 search terms.

DAP-addict certainly won't give it much credence.

CL

dap is a rather small niche, the problem is if you browse ebi, woodman and sineplex forums only you will start thinking that everybody loves hard anal and dap. but here are many hardliners around, the average guy who watches pussy soft porn 4 time per months will rarely join a porn forum.

[Camarillobrillo]

dap is a rather small niche, the problem is if you browse ebi, woodman and sineplex forums only you will start thinking that everybody loves hard anal and dap...

This being said with the utmost respect for all dap fans but c'mon, dap is more circus then porn.
I enjoy seeing anal but that's not mandatory for a scene to be good and i also watch dp if it's well shot
but that's about far enough...
I'm basically here to enjoy the girls, if there's too many guys running around the scene, well it's not for me...

[dap-addict]

dap is a rather small niche, the problem is if you browse ebi, woodman and sineplex forums only you will start thinking that everybody loves hard anal and dap. but here are many hardliners around, the average guy who watches pussy soft porn 4 time per months will rarely join a porn forum.

Its a niche, but the question is who pays your bills better the soft porn consumers watching 4 scenes a month and trying to do it for free or the niche consumers spending 100-200 Euro on porn per month?
Up to now it looks like basically all professional producers cater for both crowds. If dap wouldnt sell at all neither PW nor legalporn would shot it.

[Camarillobrillo]

If dap wouldnt sell at all neither PW nor legalporn would shot it.

And in fact, if i remember well, Woodman wrote that he dosen't shoot dap anymore, unless it's the girl herself
that propose it...