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This pic is from 'Museum Visit' (21sextury). Her skirt carries an 'Elegance' label. My hostess girlfriend wants this exact skirt. Does anyone know where it can be bought? I've done the usual searches and can find nothing.

Liz, if you are here, drop me a PM. Thanks.

I will see if I can find out for you. I don't think Liz speaks English so I would not think she will be on here posting.

I have to admit that I don't really know her, but I have met her a few times and also remixed some music for one of her shows once. I do know someone that knows her really well and they may ask if I ask them nicely.

Alternatively, drop either Szimpi (Machomedia) or Gergo (Machomedia) a note asking if they could ask for you. Both of those guys are pretty fluent in English and see Liz quite often.

Steve wrote:Both of those guys are pretty fluent in English and see Liz quite often.

Good idea, but do you really think Liz brought her own outfit to that set? Maybe asking tiger would be a better (and shorter) option.

Meanwhile for those not only into fashion:

Generally, the models supply their own clothes so therefore asking Liz via someone else will be the better option.

Steve wrote:I will see if I can find out for you. I don't think Liz speaks English so I would not think she will be on here posting.

I have to admit that I don't really know her, but I have met her a few times and also remixed some music for one of her shows once. I do know someone that knows her really well and they may ask if I ask them nicely.

Alternatively, drop either Szimpi (Machomedia) or Gergo (Machomedia) a note asking if they could ask for you. Both of those guys are pretty fluent in English and see Liz quite often.

Liz was booked to present Paradise last year at the Berlin Venus Fair and they told me she fall ill. Since then i have seen not many new movies from her, Liz is retired i think.

Steve wrote:Generally, the models supply their own clothes so therefore asking Liz via someone else will be the better option.

This is eactly the opposite from the impression you get watching the behind the scenes sections.

gapelover wrote:is retired i think.

I must admit, she has not done any of the festivals so far this year. You may be right.

Thanks Steve, hope you can make contact. Who is 'tiger'?

dap-addict wrote:This is eactly the opposite from the impression you get watching the behind the scenes sections.

What you see on film and what really happens is very misleading. Even most BTS scenes are staged or edited to not really give a good impression of what is happening.

The models generally have a suitcase packed with items that they take to a shoot. If you have a keen eye you will start noticing the same clothing appearing on models in different shoots and by different companies/directors.

I can give you a few examples with Victoria Swinger. 21st Sextury DP Scene (Red Dress) and DDF Handsonhardcore Scene (Red Dress). Black Widow by Kovi (Pink Dress) and Pink The Other White Meat (Pink Dress).

For all the shoots I have attended the models have supplied their own clothing and that is around 40 or so scenes that I have been present at.

marmaduke wrote:Thanks Steve, hope you can make contact. Who is 'tiger'?

Tiger (or Tigr) is a representative from 21st Sextury who writes often on these forums. You should be able to contact her using PM. I haven't personally met her but I know Frigo has and I believe she is the organiser of shoots for 21st Sextury websites.

Steve wrote:Generally, the models supply their own clothes so therefore asking Liz via someone else will be the better option.

Not always the case..... I supply the majority of outfits in my movies. I do a shopping spree before each shoot. I buy sexy clothes, stockings, shoes, underwear etc. I spent $2,500 USD on clothes for my last 4 movies. The Collectors, Country Fresh, The Metrosexual, Derriere Digest. (releases start this week!)

Yes many girls carry some clothes with them. I use very little if any of their clothes. I want to be original. Sometimes I will give an outfit to the girls if they ask..... But that defeats my purpose. They will wear it for some other company.

Yeps, there will be companies that supply the clothing as sometimes the scene demands clothing that the models would not have (such as costume drama style, or fantasy/fiction movies).

Most website gonzo shoots though would not provide the clothing. None of the websites I have worked on have actually provided clothing to the models and they are given a general idea of what is required the day before.

It's nice to hear that you do provide clothing as this does give a refreshing outlook to see a model in clothing that is not becoming a generic standard in their shoots.

I also agree that giving the clothing away would defeat the purpose for which it was bought, which is originality.

gapelover wrote: Liz is retired i think.

I hope not. I want to see Liz take 2 dicks up her ass many more times. I would be sad if 2 of my favorite daggies -- Liz and Lucy -- have retired.

Steve wrote:If you have a keen eye you will start noticing the same clothing appearing on models in different shoots and by different companies/directors.

I can give you a few examples with Victoria Swinger. 21st Sextury DP Scene (Red Dress) and DDF Handsonhardcore Scene (Red Dress). Black Widow by Kovi (Pink Dress) and Pink The Other White Meat (Pink Dress).

For all the shoots I have attended the models have supplied their own clothing and that is around 40 or so scenes that I have been present at.

Thanks for that insight, Steve.
But by clothing do you mean the skirts and shirts (the second layer) rather than shoes and stockings?
I´ve just noticed that huge sandal and platform stock in DDF/Swanks bts make-up room. It´s an amazing collection to choose from!

Tommy Kaye wrote:Not always the case..... I supply the majority of outfits in my movies. I do a shopping spree before each shoot. I buy sexy clothes, stockings, shoes, underwear etc. I spent $2,500 USD on clothes for my last 4 movies. The Collectors, Country Fresh, The Metrosexual, Derriere Digest. (releases start this week!)

But you have your female assistant with you at these shopping tours, I guess