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I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:13 pm
by Vulture
Sorry to be negative but I do post a lot of positive stuff on here so hoping you allow me this one.

OK so I've not really been Steve Holmes' biggest fan for a while (too much showboating, face-slapping etc.) but I've cut him a bit of slack. He still turns in the odd good scene (with Britney and Whitney Stevens in Belladonna's Cock Pigs, for one), has a good-sized cock a lot of the female porn babes often get off on and can fuck pretty well on occasion.

Sadly, I've just picked up Jazz Duro's Cheek Freaks 4 and this will definitely be my last porn DVD with Steve Holmes in it.

Here's the case for the prosecution:

Exhibit A - scene 1, Kyra Black and Angelina Crow are looking pretty phenomenal (especially Kyra) but in a scene lasting about 50 mins (far too long) my guess is that Steve H manages barely 10 minutes of fucking and even that is fairly pedestrian fare. He just spends the whole scene talking, touching, moving the girls around into positions he doesn't then even follow-up while they're looking awesome and just gagging to be fucked. It's noticeable that when Jazz himself joins the fray later on he brings significantly more heat to the scene in a very short spell. Angelina and Kyra give the impression of actually being a bit disappointed. Wasted scene. Holmes' fault for me.

Exhibit B - scene 4. The really bad one. Sandra Parker looks a little less cute and more slutty than usual. This is a good thing, I think. Sadly, Holmes again delivers his trademark pedestrian showboat fuck for a fair bit but hang on....what's this?....with Sandra pinned to the sofa face up and getting a decent anal pounding and visibly showing pleasure and the scene starting to show promise, what does our hero decide the thing needs? What are we lacking here that will really drive the scene towards the big marks? Of course. It was so obvious. We need STEVE HOLMES' ENTIRE HAND COVERING SANDRA'S FACE. So that's what he does. We don't see her pretty face, we see the reverse of Holmes' hand as he basically smothers and humiliates her. And presumably Sandra must have great trouble breathing but then these sluts will put up with what Holmes gives them, won't they? They are not calling the shots here. The great man has won.

OK I'm being sarcastic here. I appreciate that Holmes isn't the only 1 does this stuff (Rocco Siffredi invented it I think and his protegee Omar Galanti has carried the mantle on) but the key difference for me is that Rocco and Galanti's stuff is generally a bit easier to avoid and more "niche". Holmes shows up in pretty much everything from the last few years on either side of the pond. And he used to be good (his scene with Sandra Romain and her sidekick mate in Buttman's Anal Show 4 is up there with the best ever for me) so, you know, I find it hard to totally give up on him.

I do often ask myself if I take this porn thing too seriously in these instances as well. But, you know, it seems quite basic stuff to me. The nasty guys are winning. I'm discerning and I think it's valid criticism.

But yeah, I'm done with Holmes now. I just don't get off on this aggressive, possibly misogynistic stuff. For me male porn stars are like football centre backs - you know they're having a good game when you don't really notice them. I suspect that given Holmes' age he maybe needs a bit of an "edge" to his scenes in order to keep going and that these thuggish nuances of his are what drive him on. Either that or he knows he no longer fucks hard or well so hopes these distract from his performance.

Either way, given that there's new talent like Timur (Anal Buffet 2) out there...or even if there isn't - bin off this tired has-been now.

Thoughts?

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:15 am
by camaban
I didn't think it's Homes fault if he covered Sandra's face for too long. Isn't the director responsible for what he shows. So for me the price go to Jazz Duro!

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:09 pm
by dap-addict
Agreed!
Also tend to Vultures second motive for Steve.
At least his cum-shots get really week lately. :(

Anyway, certainly no misogynist, the more that the girls still really seemm to like him and work with him. :)

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:31 pm
by gapeman
Steve Holmes is not good Gaper anymore :cry: He only fuck the girls...far away from time ago when he worked for CC,JYLC or together with Manuel Ferrara gaping all the girls around :D I don´t like him also :roll:

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:16 am
by Lee
Steve Holmes used to be one of the best male actors, maybe he has lost his touch a bit, but I do agree that alot is down to the director.
To be honest, I'm getting a bit sick & tired of the guys who keep mauling the girls. It's as if they are simply getting off on their own sexual desires rather than what the viewer wants to see. Omar is another culprit. Although I think Rocco is a good fucker even he sometimes goes too far. Unless it's an actual fetish scene or niche, it detracts from the sexiness of the girl.
Of course, this is just my opinion.

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:50 am
by camaban
gapeman wrote:Steve Holmes is not good Gaper anymore :cry: He only fuck the girls...far away from time ago when he worked for CC,JYLC or together with Manuel Ferrara gaping all the girls around :D I don´t like him also :roll:

Is that only what counts for a male actor, to gape the girl? Girl could be totally bored as long as the fucker gapes her good? Isn't the girl do the gape?

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:09 am
by gapeman
Yes,is important that the girl Gape and act with passion :D ...but in my opinion Steve Holmes acting this days is boring :(

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:42 pm
by Vulture
Lee wrote:To be honest, I'm getting a bit sick & tired of the guys who keep mauling the girls. It's as if they are simply getting off on their own sexual desires rather than what the viewer wants to see. Omar is another culprit. Although I think Rocco is a good fucker even he sometimes goes too far. Unless it's an actual fetish scene or niche, it detracts from the sexiness of the girl.
Of course, this is just my opinion.


Totally agree with this.

I do agree that the director takes a lot of responsibility also. I just don't understand the mentality of the actor doing it in the first place. Bear in mind that Holmes crops up in lots of work by different directors and it's hard to imagine they all request he behaves like that.

I think it has just become a bit endemic and the directors tolerate it.

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:46 pm
by dap-addict
Watch Steve Holmes with Angelina Crow in Brandon Irons She`s Half My Age 8 (shot in April 2008) and you see that he is really all than a misogynic, but rather really loves the girls she fucks in his job - and like in Angies case does all to really give many of them a good time on set. :arrow: :) 8)

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:15 pm
by tami flu
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Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:54 pm
by camaban
the flu aka annoying sicko wrote:camaban is a sucking jerk imho

I think you have really problems with your brain, the flu aka annoying sicko. Side effect of your medicine? I hope you have swallowed enough to be immune against the "pig influenza" which will come to our fucking shit country in fall or winter.

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:44 pm
by Candy Alexa
i work with him. He is good actor!

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:27 pm
by gapeman
dap-addict wrote:Watch Steve Holmes with Angelina Crow in Brandon Irons She`s Half My Age 8 (shot in April 2008) and you see that he is really all than a misogynic, but rather really loves the girls she fucks in his job - and like in Angies case does all to really give many of them a good time on set. :arrow: :) 8)


Angelina Crow was in relation with Steve Holmes for a time...so she is not a good example of girl and scene :roll: In this scene they fuck pasionate as a couple...but is good scene for me :D ...but with other girls boring for me :( He forgot how to Gaping girls like in his JYLC or CC years :(

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:32 pm
by DigitalCopyright
I think a bit of perspective is needed here chaps. This guy has been at the top of his game for nearly 13 years and is easily one of the most consistent performers in the business. Consequently, he's set rather high standards for himself and I thus think he's entitled to a few bad days at the office.

Moreover, you need to remember that Holmes is nearly 50 so it's inevitable that he won't be able to keep it up for that much longer.

At the end of the day he does a job that very few can do. I know I couldn't do it.

Re: I hate Steve Holmes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:39 pm
by tatiscevo
I respect all your opinions, but I think Steve Holmes is a great performer. I supose most of the girls have a good opinion about him.
Porn sometimes is too hard, but everything done in a scene is negotiated, isn´t it?