Prague report - is it accurate

[dap-addict]

sorry,what was the headline of this topic right now ?
meanwhile the thread goes to nowhere land,
it is like listening to politicians talking a lot, but saying nothing

Thanks, the flu aka annoying sicko.
I see I started a very intersting discussion providing me with lots of infos on the general porn crisis I was looking for.

Still, to come back to the main subject - Prague and Czech:
Will Prague as a porn production place survive?
How?
Why do Prague based girls have to travel to Budapest to get work?
Will they soon have to travel to St. Peterburg, too?
Are 400-700 Euro too much for a b/g non anal scene nowadays?
Will the Prague agencies survive?
etc.

[DennisAttitude]

sorry,what was the headline of this topic right now ?
meanwhile the thread goes to nowhere land,
it is like listening to politicians talking a lot, but saying nothing

Thanks, the flu aka annoying sicko.
I see I started a very intersting discussion providing me with lots of infos on the general porn crisis I was looking for.

Still, to come back to the main subject - Prague and Czech:
Will Prague as a porn production place survive?
How?
Why do Prague based girls have to travel to Budapest to get work?
Will they soon have to travel to St. Peterburg, too?
Are 400-700 Euro too much for a b/g non anal scene nowadays?
Will the Prague agencies survive?
etc.

Prague will not survive, because it already death since September 2007, and there are no big labels shooting any more in Prague since there are no good new faces and no stars from the past who have the passion anymore.

New faces in Prague asking now between 200 and 250 euro for a scene and even with those low prices, still no shoots from the big labels in Prague.

Besides good info in R Rated Magazine about Prague ( online 01 August ) already more then good info about the future on of the adult world wide in R Rated JUly issue, best is to read it all, and you will have direct answers from the people who provides the market today with adult.

Greets

PS: direct link :

http://www.r-ratedmagazine.com/magazine/go/Main.php?MagID=1&MagNo=1

headlines: July:

Mark Spiegler : "There is not many work at the moment, so I don't take more then 25 girls in my agency."
- Pietro Lucerni: "I personally think it should be interesting to use an x star for a fashion campaign."
- Viv Thomas: "We are trying to fight back at the internet piracy , but it becomes impossible."
- Roxy Deville: "Our business is suffering right now, many people are really struggling at the moment."
- Darren Roberts (CEO, AVN Magazine US): "I believe that the business is indeed experiencing difficult times."
- Louis Moire (director for Private and Dorcel - Max Candy): "I think to work in high budget movies with fresh talent is very dangerous."
- Samantha Lewis (CEO, Digital Playground US): "We will keep on fighting and prosecuting everybody who attempts to pirate our content."
- Pierre Woodman (CEO, Woodman Entertainment): "There is only one real casting line and I have been proving it for the last 16 years."

Headlines August:

* Oldrich Widman (Europe): the man who made Silvia Saint a legend. “Yes it is true that filming in Prague and Czech Republic rapidly dropped”.
* Marc Dorcel (Europe), CEO Gregory Dorcel: “The DVD market will die and the Internet will survive”.
* Robby D. (US): a profile from artist to business entrepreneur.
* John Stagliano (US): Evil Angel President in an interview, “I love freedom, Many people do not know what freedom is”.
* Herve Bodlilis (Europe): director from the 230.000 euro budget movie “Casino” for Marc Dorcel.
* Steven Hirsch (US): Vivid CEO, “We have been offered many celebrity sex tapes that we have declined to distribute”.
* Divinity Love (EU): Woodman Entertainment star. “I guess Pierre was the main reason why I chose this kind of job.
* Katsuni (US): adult celebrity and Digital Playground star, Katsuni in a special lay out report.
* Jackson Guitars: they made a Jenna Jameson“adult” guitar, but they don’t want to speak about it, R Rated brings the truth out.
* Online special: Eurobabeindex.com, (with Frigo).
* Steve Orenstein (US): President from Wicked Pictures, ”Our covers have a very mainstream look to them”, with Jessica Drake and Kirsten Price.

Enjoy the reading and enjoy the important info.

Greets and regards.

[dap-addict]

Prague will not survive, because it already death since September 2007

i.e. the post syph shock combined with Rosenbergs arrest?

New faces in Prague asking now between 200 and 250 euro for a scene and even with those low prices, still no shoots from the big labels in Prague.

Is this 200-250 Euro for pussy only or including anal?
Or only lez/mast?

[tami flu]

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[BEP]

Of course filming in Czech Republic was not stopped, small european/ german companies continue to use Czech girls in own production. But it mostly cheap gonzo production with boy/girl or girl/girl or solo only scenes. Some movies like gyno fetish also fimling here.

We do not see more american companies this days in Europe. Reason of this i already told before. Production of porn movies in Europe have very high cost today. Ok, newbies want 200-250 euro. I do not know this newbies, but my friend/photographer have payed to models 5000 kc ( 200 eur ) 2 years ago. And he used mostly mature women and ugly looking girls in his production. I do not sure that good looking top models like Sarah Twain (for example) will work for 250 eur.

Same i can say about Hungary. In Hungary now filming only european (german, hungarian, italian) companies. No US production here. Cost of hungarian currency also grow as czech currency.

There is no reason to make movies in Europe this days.
In Russia and USA you can pay 200$ to model and film her... Who want to spend money on czech girls?

Still, to come back to the main subject - Prague and Czech:
Will Prague as a porn production place survive?
How?
Why do Prague based girls have to travel to Budapest to get work?
Will they soon have to travel to St. Peterburg, too?
Are 400-700 Euro too much for a b/g non anal scene nowadays?
Will the Prague agencies survive?
etc.

[mike0144]

naaaaa, currently talked to a guy from iafd.

he said czech-products r hot as hell these days

[dap-addict]

he said czech-products r hot as hell these days

Maybe hot, but also very expensive.
Still, I think it`s also those american producers to blame who came to shoot in reasonably priced Prague in early 2000 and started to boast with their big wallets. This led to crazy prize hikes. And only now the prices come slowly down again. Still, I cannot really believe Porn Valley rookies are cheaper than 330 $ in LA.

[Keni Styles]

Just to add my opinion... it is totally down to the economy!

Of course everyone is getting fucked by the dollar, thank you George! But also this crazy hike with the korun, when I first started working in Prague it was 44kc = £1. Today it is something around 26kc = £1. Almost half the koruns for my pounds.

So how could I personally justify spending my money to shoot in Prague?

Simple answer... I wouldnt, which sucks because being infront of the camera is also rubbish now as all the guys are working for almost nothing in Prague. I cannot compete with these low rates, so I must move on until the situation in Prague changes.

I know many Prague based models like me who had to work away from Czech since the start of this year because there are hardly any productions here and if they are then they dont have large budgets because of the conversion so only the cheapest models are used.

It is a real shame.

[STEMCELL]

How is it then with eromaxx? Do a lot of actors and actresses appearing there for free and just for fun?

[Keni Styles]

I tread very carefully with what I say here but I can say that I am very lucky to have a seperate arrangement with Eromaxx and I only really appear in DSO and MSP these days.

I would not want to comment for other models but I know that everyone, from top to bottom, model to director and almost everyone inbetween is fighting hard for their money in Prague.

[tami flu]

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[dap-addict]

we can be sure german b-movie (no, i didn´t mean bi-movie) producers take advantage of a discount situation in prague

If it`s only due to the economic situation and really no syph crisis and Rosenberg arrest backlash, than could it be that we just see a fraction into
- cheep Prague for cheep German B-porn producers
- expensive Budapest for international A-porn producers



Btw, too bad that those German B-porn movies are so week and twice as expensive as A-porn, too.

[dap-addict]

Will Prague as a porn production place survive?
How?

Prague will not survive, because it already death since September 2007, and there are no big labels shooting any more in Prague since there are no good new faces and no stars from the past who have the passion anymore.

You date the Prague death at September 2007, Dennis. Maybe you can shed light in something I have wondered for many months than: In August 2007 Steve Holmes travelled to Prague to shoot a quite high quality German all dap feature. He shot Melissa Black as the leading star and three 2007 Prague crop cuties (Kathy Sweet, Mollie, Chantal Ferrara) as well as the 2006 Czech crop cutie Ellen Peterson. All of them performed well. No trace of lacking passion for the job for sure. After the final cut, however, the material tuned up only on an obscure German paysite.
What went wrong here?
You must have sure heard about this ambitious Steve Holmes project...
Was that the last outcry of old porn Prague?

[Mr. Peter]

Unfortunately its true what have been said about Czech situation.
Its unbelievable - Czech among Buda has been always one of the porn kingdoms.

But yeah, still new girls are appearing at agencies, but their work are shattered into a lot of small budget productions, website projects, etc.
No more well known productions, no big productions (some minor exceptions like Pierre Woodman), no more crowds waiting behind agencie's doors.

It has only one positivum - for the girls - its hard to trace them so they can hide their work more easily.

The girls that seriously think about making money by doing sex moved to webcams and escorting. Only a fraction still enter regular porn movie business and usually for a much shorter period of time.

So no more porn stars today for Czech...

[Keni Styles]

I was just thinking this...

Does anyone else think that the lack of 'pornstar' motivation may also have something to do with the tougher laws regarding working in the states?

I know that without a decent american sponsor, east europeans will be taking a big risk to travel and work in the states, hell even it is quite hard for british passport holders.

Seeing as not many american companies are shooting in europe now, that combined with the difficulty in getting into the states kinda blocks any young starlets hopes of becoming a big star like their 'pornstar' role models?

Oh and one more thing by the way, one piece of bright news for Prague is that Brazzers, the huge web based company is planning to come over in September to shoot a bunch of scenes there. I have put them in contact with the main model agencies so lets hope that any budding starletts get a chance to shine for those guys while they are over here!

It could be one of the few chances this year that these new girls have to boost their name and reputations and get noticed by other international directors. I think that also in a strange way, the girls that Brett Brando picks will be serving their country also, because the more they can convince big american companies to come over to Prague the better for the czech industry right?

I would love to see girls who have the ambition and drive to be in this business really get given the best chances and hopefully then they wont all disappear to work as escorts full time! There are still some very beautiful girls who could more than live up to the legacy of my favs like Angel Dark and Jane Darling.

Keni

Ps. From anyones knowledge of recent performances, looks, etc if you have any suggestions for girls who will do Prague proud then post or PM me please, thanks.

*edit typo*