The Russian DAP attack

[Mr. Peter]

I think this is quite important serious talk about reality in porn.

I agree with what have been said above that porn consumers really dont care shit about performer's health, risk of particular sexual acts etc., they just watch and may have distorted vision of reality. And that can lead to unreal theories about porn world, a lot of rumours (ie. fraud tests) etc....I can hear it around me.
If somebody doesnt want to listen thats another story, but if someone wants to hear the truth, is good to have such a reliable resources.

Porn is and will be risky, the more demanding act, more risk, usually. Like working in the heights. And actors are paid for taking the risk. If you are lucky and will stay healthy for all the time (98% of actors will! - unlike unknown girl caught at the local disco!), its the best work in the whole world.
If you are not willing to take all the risks, thats definitely not for you. Thats the reason I finally decided (at least for now) not to become porn actor. And finally it is about people, when a girl doesnt have proper tests, then I will say go home, I wont work with you, and thats how it happens and should be.
Nobody in mainstream official porn industry (!) will force you to do anything.

[ASS-DARTS]

[quote="Mr. Peter"]I think this is quite important serious talk about reality in porn.

I agree with what have been said above that porn consumers really dont care shit about performer's health, risk of particular sexual acts etc., they just watch and may have distorted vision of reality. And that can lead to unreal theories about porn world, a lot of rumours (ie. fraud tests) etc....I can hear it around me.
If somebody doesnt want to listen thats another story, but if someone wants to hear the truth, is good to have such a reliable resources.

100% support to this. It looks like the guy Cleanlife was trying to bring the same idea. But it looks like porno chick and her supporters wanted to wash out the existing problems and turn it to a farse

All this is sad, esspesially then you really adicted to the porn, see how people can treat it as a easy risks and cover it by money only factors...

Hope that people have a right to express their opinions but in inteligent manner the things like -

"we will see how will reacted mother of your girlfriend - if i do with her like you did with my mother!! and dont ask why i know - becouse IP its a great thing!! 1000000000000000 kisses from my ass =))" or
"your girlfriend calls you...
http://www.spankwire.com/articles/108213/Sexy-Duck-Call.html

and as you give nothing at this forum it's better to shut up."

I do not want to protect anyone but it looks like the behaviour problems are really seen under these expressions.

Also - "You Russians have a great expression - "Do not touch the shit otherwise it starts to smell". So I do not touch you Jul therefore point your sick brain to anybody else."

is something what people should do off-line this is related to Cleanlife, Chris and Juliana Grandi what ever who you are and what you are.

It looks like the discussion was around DAP and health tests but not about mothers, 10000000000 kisses from ass, shut ups. Sorry guys but you like piggies and really can chat off line this shit.

[hood1977]

I think this is quite important serious talk about reality in porn.

I agree with what have been said above that porn consumers really dont care shit about performer's health, risk of particular sexual acts etc., they just watch and may have distorted vision of reality. And that can lead to unreal theories about porn world, a lot of rumours (ie. fraud tests) etc....I can hear it around me.
If somebody doesnt want to listen thats another story, but if someone wants to hear the truth, is good to have such a reliable resources.

Porn is and will be risky, the more demanding act, more risk, usually. Like working in the heights. And actors are paid for taking the risk. If you are lucky and will stay healthy for all the time (98% of actors will! - unlike unknown girl caught at the local disco!), its the best work in the whole world.
If you are not willing to take all the risks, thats definitely not for you. Thats the reason I finally decided (at least for now) not to become porn actor. And finally it is about people, when a girl doesnt have proper tests, then I will say go home, I wont work with you, and thats how it happens and should be.
Nobody in mainstream official porn industry (!) will force you to do anything.

actors are beeing paid for the risk.
consumers are paying in order not to give a shit about. (and sometime to spread the rumors)

[Mr. Peter]

I think this is quite important serious talk about reality in porn.

I agree with what have been said above that porn consumers really dont care shit about performer's health, risk of particular sexual acts etc., they just watch and may have distorted vision of reality. And that can lead to unreal theories about porn world, a lot of rumours (ie. fraud tests) etc....I can hear it around me.
If somebody doesnt want to listen thats another story, but if someone wants to hear the truth, is good to have such a reliable resources.

Porn is and will be risky, the more demanding act, more risk, usually. Like working in the heights. And actors are paid for taking the risk. If you are lucky and will stay healthy for all the time (98% of actors will! - unlike unknown girl caught at the local disco!), its the best work in the whole world.
If you are not willing to take all the risks, thats definitely not for you. Thats the reason I finally decided (at least for now) not to become porn actor. And finally it is about people, when a girl doesnt have proper tests, then I will say go home, I wont work with you, and thats how it happens and should be.
Nobody in mainstream official porn industry (!) will force you to do anything.

actors are beeing paid for the risk.
consumers are paying in order not to give a shit about. (and sometime to spread the rumors)

I absolutely agree. But I think its still a good idea to make the real information available to anybody who cares for whatever reason about it.
Many people are really surprised about the actual facts when Im trying to unhide their myths about porn world. Even mainstream media distort the facts in their reports and represent them in different light.
So its good to put some light on it even here on this forum and many thanks to people who tries it, although I know its the Internet and you have always to be careful about relevant information...
Thats my 2 cents...

[Mr. Peter]

ASS-DARTS: I think this flamewar above is more related to people's relationships in general, not only applying to porn...

I want to stay in neutral possition, as I dont have any relevant info about this particular thing...

[dap-addict]

I think this is quite important serious talk about reality in porn.

I agree with what have been said above that porn consumers really dont care shit about performer's health, risk of particular sexual acts etc., they just watch and may have distorted vision of reality. And that can lead to unreal theories about porn world, a lot of rumours (ie. fraud tests) etc....I can hear it around me.
If somebody doesnt want to listen thats another story, but if someone wants to hear the truth, is good to have such a reliable resources.

100% support to this. It looks like the guy Cleanlife was trying to bring the same idea. But it looks like porno chick and her supporters wanted to wash out the existing problems and turn it to a farse

I see my tread took a really strange turn!

First, of all I am still deeply convinced that after Two Cocks in the Booty 2 and Teen Tryouts 57 the porn world will see more Russian daps soon.


Second, of course these daps shall be shot fellwoing to the established health rules not failing in 99,9% of cases in porn productions all over Europe. Most Russian productions do exactly fellow this.

Third, a rest risk always remains, but it has usually nothing to do with porn as such but rather the performers private live. This is the same in Russia, where the general population is far more affected by sexually transmitted deseases than the porn community.

Forth, porn consumers should of course care about porn production health issues! And be it only to avoid another quarantaine inflicted production drop like in Summer 2007. But actually I would think EBI talkers also really like their favorite Eurobabe cuties and just want the best for them.

Fifth, the Russian porn market is still a frontier area with a much higher number of shady producers, agents, players etc. As all over the biz there are some animosities. And there is hard competition.

Knowing Russia and St. Peterburg from many trips I want to stress that both cleanlife and Juliana Grandi have surprised me with a seldom met openess and accuracy - no matter who they may tactically defend in a battle we dont know (or dont wanna write about). If somebody is trying to cover something up here it`s gapelover. I guess he does it out of a feeling of loyality. But loyality as such is a good thing basically.

It looks like the discussion was around DAP and health tests but not about mothers...

Exactly!
Lets better invite Joachim kessef to talk about the daps he currently shoots in St. Peterburg!

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

bhooo....

[dap-addict]

bhooo....

What`s that Juliana?
Btw, you are still my biggest Russian DAP attack hope.

[gapelover]

Exactly!
Lets better invite Joachim kessef to talk about the daps he currently shoots in St. Peterburg!

I have to keep my mouth shut !!!

[Gizmo666]

These russian DAPS are really good. I like them and hope for more.

[dap-addict]

I have to keep my mouth shut !!!

...yes, because Sineplex (and also Devils it seems) doenst shoot any.

[Mr. Peter]

I have to keep my mouth shut !!!

...yes, because Sineplex (and also Devils it seems) doenst shoot any.

This leads me to a question: Why the hell nobody shoots DAPs in Czech with Czech girls now? It used to be a tradition...
Holy porn crap - give me a camera, throw me some girls and I will shoot DAPs that nobody will forget! ...I know something smells now.. , but Im really serious!

[dap-addict]

This leads me to a question: Why the hell nobody shoots DAPs in Czech with Czech girls now? It used to be a tradition...

I dont know, Mr. Peter, but one problem may be simply the fees. When Voyeur, Strong, EE & Co. shot dap for every second film they shot in Prague, the local fees were still reasonable, later some girls retired, but dap got even more popular as the utmost demanding porn act. And the fees went berserk. Thus today shooting Czech daps demands an above average budget.
Still, Steve Holmes and Freddy showed last autumn shooting dap for www.doppelanal.net that they found quite a few dap-able Czech girls. Here is a short list in case you are really serious and find the money they ask:

Kathy Sweet

Mollie

Ellen Peterson

Chantal Ferrara

You may also count Slovakian dap girl Natalli di Angelo to them.
All of them are quite good at dap, but dap-able Russian girls would do it 3-5 times cheaper.

[dap-addict]

I think this is quite important serious talk about reality in porn.

I agree with what have been said above that porn consumers really dont care shit about performer's health, risk of particular sexual acts etc., they just watch and may have distorted vision of reality. And that can lead to unreal theories about porn world, a lot of rumours (ie. fraud tests) etc....I can hear it around me.
If somebody doesnt want to listen thats another story, but if someone wants to hear the truth, is good to have such a reliable resources.

Porn is and will be risky, the more demanding act, more risk, usually. Like working in the heights. And actors are paid for taking the risk. If you are lucky and will stay healthy for all the time (98% of actors will! - unlike unknown girl caught at the local disco

Re-reading all this in the back of the latest St. Peterburg case (the first official hiv case there) I do have mixed feelings now.
But I am still convinced that St. Peterburg can supply us with the most demanding porn acts shot by motivated girls and studs if only the current situation gets sorted out soon. And I am actually still keeping big hopes for Joachim Kessefs Two Cocks in the Booty 2 fellow-ups (and other Russian dap projects, too). He sure was very frightened and will therefore care about health on set even more.
...and I cannot wait for his Piter dap news!


One final word: The local disco indeed stays more dangerous than any porn set in St. Petrburg. Lets keep that in mind!

[ronk]

http://doubleanalzone.com/index.php?page=1 has some new daps (as well as old ones) from probably Russian talent. Are these shot by Joachim?