Devilsfilm with Eurogirls in November

[demdem]

She is Emily! http://eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/emily_a.html

[gapelover]

Thats right ! She was a met-art model.

[Stass]

:shock: Thats right ! She was a met-art model.

And now she Met- Hard model

[trasimeno32]

thanks Gapelover....very beautiful girl!!!!!

[firstanalquest.com]

Looking forward to shot her First Anal Quest Anal and gapes with metart babes - looks so fucking sexy for me ...

[gapelover]

Really ?

[oh_harle]

i have watched few devils 'gangbang' movies recently, like Gangland 71, Gangland creampie 20 and University Gangbang 3. All i can say - it's awful. One decent scene in each film(not great, just tolerable) - Lafee in GC 23, Atlanta in G 71 and Venday in UG 3. It's a crime, to make that kind of shit with so hot and cute girls, like two Annas from UG 3. And the more they trying to be 'rough' and active, the more pathetic scene they get - because it's useless to be a rough and strong, till you can't find a right mood. But they don't even care about it - don't wanna do their job best, have no time for it, so much work. But then i have no time for their movies.
And overusing of Barbariska with endless dp's in first half of her scene in Creampie Orgy 12 (so in second she's exhausted and it ruined whole movie) - good illustration to their work. Senseless abuse. Seems like they don't know anything beyond this. Sad.
Hope Sineplex production is better

And something else - voice of director (and operator) Stass or whoever, shouting stupid remarks and cursing.. Incredible

[DigitalCopyright]

oh_harle, I'd agree with some of your points but not others. Gangland 71 was rather unimpressive and I thought the girls were not quite up to the usual standard. Moreover, Anna didn't seem to enjoy her scene that much. I cannot comment on University Gang Bang as I haven't seen it.

As for Creampie Orgy 12, I have to disagree. Barbariska's performance was considerably better than any of the other girls and she was a consummate pro in that scene (she looked like she was at least enjoying it). They had to focus on her as she was easily the best and most experienced female performer. Without her, it would have been a rather mediocre scene. It's a shame she didn't do Gangland. Barbariska would have had a massive career ahead of her if she stayed in porn.

With regards to your comments about the girls not particularly liking their scenes, we must remember that porn is a job. Like all jobs, there are times when you have to do things that you might not necessarily like in order to get ahead and make money. All of these girls were cognisant of what they were getting themselves into.

Of course, it's much better to enjoy what you do but life can be a bitch at times. A bit of perspective is needed here. You have to remember that the vast majority of people aren't fortunate enough to find a job they like - it's simply a means to an end.

I bet that the vast majority of girls in porn enjoy their jobs - not necessarily all the sex acts but the benefits that come with it e.g. the money, travelling etc. After all, without porn, what would these girls be doing? Escorting? If not, earning far less money in an extremely mundane and not particularly skilled profession.

[oh_harle]

Sorry, i doesn't understand second part of your comment.
I said nothing about the girls and their relation to their job. I think it's their business.Same with producers.
I was saying that second of them doing their job bad - to book a right girls, find a right approach, make a decent editing.
If the girls looks bad on a screen, suffering, getting angry(like Alisa in GC 20), getting bored - it's only producers fault. They have booked a wrong girl, they doesn't found a right approach, etc. It was their fault to release such stuff. There's no place for reasoning about tough life.
Same about Creampie Orgy - Barbariska does her job great, and how they dispose that. Overusing her, making bunch of short dp's, going one after another,that used to destroy movie's structure. Since she's not a robot, but 18 yo girl, she had tired, and second half of the movie was destroyed too (because you right, nobody will look even on Angel Rivas, when Barbariska around ). So, Barbariska was great, movie could be 500 times better - that i was saying
And about abuse, i mean - to shoot quality hard stuff you need a real male performers. When your male performers are lame, have no attitude, inexperienced , misogynistic or homosexual - all they can do is fake expression, that's leads to abuse

[DigitalCopyright]

I see where you're coming from...perhaps they have booked the wrong girls? Angel Rivas certainly didn't look too happy in her Creampie Orgy scene and neither did Lilo.

The second part of my comment was there for a reason. If we're being brutally honest, there will be very few girls who will truly enjoy being filmed, endless anals, DPs, DAPs, ATM's, pushing cum out of their arsehole and the type of very hard and slightly misogynistic sex that is routinely depicted in porn. They do it primarily for the money. However, someone like Barbariska is very experienced/good actress, can get through a scene like that and can look like she's enjoying it at the same time. Thus, I can understand why they concentrated a lot on her. Barbariska was a much better performer than the other girls in that scene (as you said, maybe they should have booked other girls). Angel Rivas and Lilo are both pretty girls but I don't think they're especially good performers on the basis of that scene.

I certainly agree with some of your comments but I think there's consistent pressure on porn producers from fans to constantly use new talent and this was painfully obvious in Creampie Orgy 12. That has to be taken into account.

[dap-addict]

i have watched few devils 'gangbang' movies recently, like Gangland 71, Gangland creampie 20 and University Gangbang 3. All i can say - it's awful.

Were these dvds filmed with the old male crew or with the new Brasilian imports?
I think this could gave a clue.
Apart from the shouting Sineplex/Devils director of course...

[oh_harle]

The second part of my comment was there for a reason. If we're being brutally honest, there will be very few girls who will truly enjoy being filmed, endless anals, DPs, DAPs, ATM's, pushing cum out of their arsehole and the type of very hard and slightly misogynistic sex that is routinely depicted in porn. They do it primarily for the money

i really don't think it's a good theme for discursion - feelings of porn actresses and their inner world. That's what they trying to keep for themselves, hide from a crowd. Like i said before - it's only their business. Any conversation about it always stupid and naive - every wanker judging by himself, digging in imagenable girl's consciousness, putting himself above..
I wonder why you think Barbariska is so experienced? In CO12 she's just 18, her short career just started, she absolutely not looks like a 'whore' - rather a sporty girl, not suffered from a complexes. I believe it was her first dp ever.
And i didn't notice anything special about Angel Rivas and Lilo, exept they was eclipsed by Barbariska. In the end Angel hide her face in her palmes, though.. But i don't think it's something serious. She was a newbie too

[oh_harle]

i have watched few devils 'gangbang' movies recently, like Gangland 71, Gangland creampie 20 and University Gangbang 3. All i can say - it's awful.

Were these dvds filmed with the old male crew or with the new Brasilian imports?
I think this could gave a clue.

University Gangbang 3 - all russian guys and one brasilian.
Gangland 71 - mostly brasilians
Gangland creampie 20 - mostly brasilians
but i will said nothing bad about brasilians.Surely they are professionals.But i believe this guys can make a bad scene even with Olivia Wild, Eric Everhard, Rocco and TT Boy
Maybe main work is for Sineplex, and Devils just for sake

[Cleanlife2]

And i didn't notice anything special about Angel Rivas and Lilo, exept they was eclipsed by Barbariska. In the end Angel hide her face in her palmes, though.. But i don't think it's something serious. She was a newbie too[/quot

Completely agree. I do not see very serious porn models in all these short time models in Russia. The only name was CherryJul but she is retired. May be there are 2 or 3 potentials but I can sadly stress that Russia is short time cash emergency driven market with very few exeptions. Also this relates to the porn producers like Sineplex or Devils which are working on Sineplex assets and deliver low quality and close to oplympic games gymnastic porn.

[DigitalCopyright]

i really don't think it's a good theme for discursion - feelings of porn actresses and their inner world. That's what they trying to keep for themselves, hide from a crowd. Like i said before - it's only their business. Any conversation about it always stupid and naive - every wanker judging by himself, digging in imagenable girl's consciousness, putting himself above..
I wonder why you think Barbariska is so experienced? In CO12 she's just 18, her short career just started, she absolutely not looks like a 'whore' - rather a sporty girl, not suffered from a complexes. I believe it was her first dp ever.
And i didn't notice anything special about Angel Rivas and Lilo, exept they was eclipsed by Barbariska. In the end Angel hide her face in her palmes, though.. But i don't think it's something serious. She was a newbie too

Barbariska is comparatively much more experienced than the other performers in that scene. She's been around for approximately a year, done quite a few anals, DPs (Devils Film and Sineplex according to Gapelover) etc. Her experience compared to the other girls is definitely noticeable in that scene (deepthroating, DP, airtight) and that's why they focused on her. In comparison, both Lilo and Angel Rivas didn't look especially comfortable in anal and/or DP as it must have been very early in their respective careers. Thus, I'm agreeing with your point that they've sometimes hired the wrong talent for a scene but I nonetheless understand the pressures to constantly find new talent.

On the other point, you've completely twisted what I've said. My point is that I suspect the vast majority of girls in porn don't particularly enjoy SOME of the sex acts they do but like certain aspects of being a pornstar (money, travel etc). I never discussed their feelings or commented on their personal life. I wouldn't want to and I'm not that interested to be honest. Nonetheless, this fact is pertinent to the overall discussion.

Girls who do anal/DPs immediately tend to burn out quicker and rarely look as happy on film. Contrarily, girls who have slowly progressed to harder acts throughout their career tend to remain in the business for longer, can take the rough with the smooth and tend to view certain sex acts more objectively (US Porn star Harmony Rose is a very good example of this - in the business for over 6 years).

And I would agree with Cleanlife2 that Russian performers are by and large not quite as good as their Hungarian, Czech and Romanian counterparts. Some like Cherry Jul, Juliana Grandi, Candy Alexa, Luba Love, Sasha etc are exceptional performers but they're the exception.