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Re: DAP in detail

Postby ubertop on Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:49 am

Jenny is champion !
More DAPs, anytime, please !
Stretch and gape more and more.
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:16 am

I feel the same, ubertop! :)
But lets have a closer looks at Jenny Simpsons dap(s)... :arrow: :idea:

aquin wrote:Vanda vs. Jenny Simpson
Notice: Pictures to underline description below details

Vanda
12:00
First dap (at last) in cg, no dipping, excellent, both cooks in ass are moving intensively and Vanda is concentrated on the action although she has to serve three guys, pic 5 Image

(...)

second load at 30:00, third guy switches from ass to pussy to get the final tease for his shout (should have stayed in ass), finally shots into Vanda's mouth, she cleans up and say something i don't understand (russian?)
31:34 the end


Jenny Simpson
8:12
finally dap, and doggy (!!), one guy goes in very deep, Joachim is dipping, edits, doggy dap
continues, pic 4
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Excellent work, aquin! 8)
You made me realize how late into the scene especially Vanda gets dapped. :o
Jenny Simpson gets plunged into it a bit swifter, about 5mins, but again we have the dipping problem with Joachim. :(
I shall re-watch the scene and tell you what Vanda says in russian at the end of the scene. I`m just too curious myself! :arrow:
More remarks soon. :)

Btw, have pasted the pics directly into your quoted text to make it more reader friendly. Please consider the same with all other pics. :idea: :)
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby aquin on Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:32 pm

dap-addict wrote:
You made me realize how late into the scene especially Vanda gets dapped. :o
Jenny Simpson gets plunged into it a bit swifter, about 5mins, but again we have the dipping problem with Joachim. :(


thanks, dap-addict, and yes, it is about 4 minutes later though you never know i you have to blame the action or the director. maybe it is just a question of editing the material, so to say, Jenny's preparitory treatment was cut down and Vanda's not.

it is correct that dipping still is a fact.

but what we see after all is really good dap stuff and hard anal action with quite awesome female performers. they take the dicks as they come. after all and after a few reviews i would say i like to see more of Vanda.

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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:45 pm

aquin wrote:thanks, dap-addict, and yes, it is about 4 minutes later though you never know i you have to blame the action or the director. maybe it is just a question of editing the material, so to say, Jenny's preparitory treatment was cut down and Vanda's not.

Sure, Joachim may just have cut out more, but I still think haveing the viewer wait 12 min in a dap film till he gets the real deal is way too long. The more as Vanda is not a super-cutie and styled quite badly as you point out right. :(
On the other hand Jenny Simpsons dildo workout is way too long, too, at around 5min. Guess dildo anals only is too soft an action even if preparatory for many dap fans. Certainly too long for me. To this I prefer the 7mins anal only for Vanda in 2CnC1 - being too long, however, too.
Could be Joachim cut out a lot of anal only with Jenny - and Giorgio cut out some dildo only with Vanda. If so I do prefer Giorgios editor choice.

Generally I do agree that Vanda`s performance is better than Jenny`s.
Why thats the case rests to be discussed, though.
Jenny has some real strong points, too! :)


Btw, the "hairy guy" is Vadim, performing in both scenes.

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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby aquin on Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:52 pm

dap-addict wrote:
On the other hand Jenny Simpsons dildo workout is way too long, too, at around 5min. Guess dildo anals only is too soft an action even if preparatory for many dap fans. Certainly too long for me. …


i agree, dap-addict, both are great double anal performers as they don't hesitate to go for even longer distances. it is quite a point that you raisementioning the dildo work. i don't like it either, at least to much of it, because i always have the feeling that it is only used to get the sphincter ready. so i would like to have the girls do it off the camera and go right into the interesting part of anal perfomring.

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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:05 pm

1min of dildo work only is enough for me. Just to check the shincter reddening you pointed out and get some small preparation feel.
I`d assess tha golden cut at around 3min tease :1min dildo only (if at all) : 1min bj : 2min STA before dap for me.
If the girls is really cute I can get on with 5min tease. :)
Anyway, the crucial thing is STA, and here as well as Joachim as Giorgio got it right. 8)
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:21 am

aquin wrote:second load at 30:00, third guy switches from ass to pussy to get the final tease for his shout (should have stayed in ass), finally shots into Vanda's mouth

Just wanna stress how important I think this review bit is!
Vadim switching from Vanda`s ass to Vanda`s pussy to get the final tease brings heavy minus points for me. :(
Really glad with Jenny Simpson this didnt happen, as a dap scene should never end with pussy fucking no matter how good the felloing cum-shot may be!
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:23 am

aquin wrote:Details

Vanda
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/vanda_2.html
from 2 Cazzi Nel Culo (Sins Store, It.) or http://www.norestfortheass.com/
timecount from start of the scene
0:00
slutty outfit, fishnets, heels but not really high heels, presentation private parts, first butt, already open anus about two fingers wide, think üprotruding cuntlips...


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For a start of a more close scene discussion lets maybe focus on the dap run-up.
I dont fully agree with the heels being too low, they are normal size and do actually fit Vandas style quite well. Without turning them into platform heels you`d get 1-2cm more max. And plateaus, though I really like them, wouldnt fit her style.
Now Vandas outfit is really very slutty, on the trashy side. Borderline trashy for my taste but again fitting her really well as she soon stretches her shincter to such parameters that you are convinced she`s the no. 1 anal girl of St. Peterburg for sure.
Choosing a trash style for Vanda, however, Giorgio should have thought a bit more about the contrast yellow gives on a grey sofa. It`s so bad it hurts after a while, despite that very hot action!

...anal plug , finges pussy, plug out, already valuable gape which does not contract right away (!!), seems Vanda has a capacious butthole, plug slides easily back in, stretches her back hole quite wide with fingers, very relaxed muscle which is underlined by some farts
big dildo appears on the scene, Vanda moistens it incidentally and shoves it into her asshole without heasitation, fucks herself with dildo, at first carefully but then she pushes it deeper and deeper into hear rear hole
plug again, changes positon, shows a lot of gapes and stretches her butthole with finges, she seems quite comfortable with this, is quite enthusiastic about it and seems to be briefed to show a lot of gapes and open asshole, pic 1 Image

despite of the hard treatment her anus shows no red or any othe sign of stress (!!), pic 2 Image
5:10
first guy, giorgio (i think it is him), enters, teases her, moistens her, then goes straight to the ass, and after the first initinal strokes pushes his cock deeper and deeper in Vanda's as, she seems to accelerate the scene through motivational remarks ("fuck, fuck, fuck more, more cock in ass please", btw her english is pretty good)
8:12
second guy enters scene, directly to the ass and deep (for a first stroke) in, Vanda sucks, deep-throats, licks balls and gets analized in parallel (quite intensive passage, rich of saliva)
9:14
unfortunately or lickily (?) a cut, so i can only assume and i would agree that more than 1 minute of such at scene does not fit the nr4ta standards, third guy on sofa already integrated in action, deep anal strokes, pic 3
hard anal fucking some (poor) gapes which do not show any ruptures or other damage, pic 4
Vanda's asshole takes the treatment without any stress, still has her small heels on, would look better in high heels, has still her dress on which does not look good
11:20
again editing, begin of dp in cg, really intensiv action, the give her "no rest" but she takes it as it comes and still seems to be enthusiastic about it
12:00
First dap (at last) in cg, no dipping, excellent, both cooks in ass are moving intensively and Vanda is concentrated on the action...
(some pics of aquin pasted directly into the text to provide easier discussion illutstrations)

I sure agree that Vanda`s dap run-up lasts way too long.
Watching the scene again I would mainly cut on her butt plug action. 1min would be enough to convey the message "I am a real slut" and "I am a gape queen" (which actually doesnt proofe right once the dicks come into action).
I also agree that especially Vadim is introduced badly. He`d better test her ass first, than move to getting a bj.
Re-watchng I was quite surprised her subsequent bj-only-stud actually digs Vandas ass in the run-up part. :o (Later he never daps her, not digs her ass again)
The worst part in the non-sex run-up was Giorgio inserting just one finger into Vandas pooper - at a time the viewer already knows she`d easily fit his fist.

some additions caps from the first real sex:
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pic 1: initial shot of Giorgios STA insertion
pic 2: Vanda extraordinary pretty
pic 3: Her bj-only stud (except for the pre-cumshot dp, where he fucks her pussy) analyzing Vanda while she blows Giorgio.

Despite being really open and relaxed, Vanda still reacts to Giorgios STA, thus showing that its actually dick she wants not dildos. :arrow: :)
The anal only fucking is too long as well.
Small gapes! :o :(
Good choice to cut that dp to a minimum leading swiftly to Vanda`s first dap.
Again here we get some notable reaction by Vanda having two dicks simultanousely banging her ass, this a lot enhances her dap-performer class...
...but more on that later.

:arrow: How do you see the dap run-up part?


Btw, aquin, I listened about ten times to Vandas post cumshot remark and its for sure not Russian.
It must be her somewhat blurred english, I guess. Her last words are "come on!"
A nice invitation, actually! :)
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby aquin on Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:40 pm

dap-addict wrote:

For a start of a more close scene discussion lets maybe focus on the dap run-up…

Despite being really open and relaxed, Vanda still reacts to Giorgios STA, thus showing that its actually dick she wants not dildos. :arrow: :)
The anal only fucking is too long as well.
Small gapes! :o :(
Good choice to cut that dp to a minimum leading swiftly to Vanda`s first dap.
Again here we get some notable reaction by Vanda having two dicks simultanousely banging her ass, this a lot enhances her dap-performer class...
...but more on that later.

:arrow: How do you see the dap run-up part?

Btw, aquin, I listened about ten times to Vandas post cumshot remark and its for sure not Russian.
It must be her somewhat blurred english, I guess. Her last words are "come on!"
A nice invitation, actually! :)


Well, dap-addict, you are right when you critize the long dap run.up, which has an obvious lack of sensations. No remarkable gapes, no surprising action. compared to the amount of editing i wonder if there wasn't enough footage for 25 minutes left. but i don't know. finally Vanda's dap performance is worth all the fuzz before.
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:22 pm

Of course Vandas dap is worth all the run-up fuss! :)
I would aven wait half an hour for such a dap performance provided I hadnt to watch boring pussy only softcore!
Still, I think Giorgio could well have cut it to 6-8mins - and than maybe left some more cum play at the end to make those 25mins again, or better even some position change material.
Anyway, I am glad you answered me and I see we feel the same about that. :)

As far as your overall assessment of Jenny Simson is concerened I guess we`ll soon gonna disagree, though. :arrow:
I feel more and more disappointed about her dap scene with Joachim.
Looks like he had really missed her potential! :(
It`s the worse as his scene really starts much better than Giorgios and especially styling and lighting are miles from Vanda`s 2CinC1 scene. :)
More on that soon...I just cannot put up with Joachims lame dipping! :x
But maybe we go to Jenny Simpsons dap run-up first?
Or better straight into the real thing?
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby aquin on Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:34 pm

dap-addict wrote:Of course Vandas dap is worth all the run-up fuss! :)

i sign this completely.

dap-addict wrote:…I just cannot put up with Joachims lame dipping! :x

i think that was unintentional, i think at this early stage he had to see how Jenny felt about the two cocks, later as he concentrates on penetration it is getting better :wink:

dap-addict wrote:But maybe we go to Jenny Simpsons dap run-up first?
Or better straight into the real thing?

i think we should stay a minute with the preludial action of Jenny:

pros: anal starts after 7:45 minutes, well prepared asshole and good preparatory gapes, already redding butthole corona proves intensive action (see also cons), wears heels, first anal fucking shots are nice

cons: already redding butthole corona proves stress, too much and too lame cock sucking, too much black mamba dildo compared to how deep it is inserted (only "dipped")

ideas for a revision : stick to preparatory action, more ass hole widening with fingers and hands, tease red corona, cut run up down to 6 minutes max

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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:43 am

I cannot see a pro in the fact that the anal starts after 7:45 minutes. :(
It may be well prepared, but I dont have to see all this preparation, really, the more when it is done with a huge black mamba dildo just dipping or even worse looking like it was meant to caress Jenny`s pooper area without actually entering it. I am quite an anti-dildo porn watcher, though, prefering real dicks for the girl.
Anal should start at half the rime running. Joachim clearly spends too much time with that boring dildo action.

A real pro for me, however, is the good styling of Jenny Simpson, the attention to details, also including good lighting, good colour contrast between the girl and the place she will be fucked on, a nice looking location. :)


As for Joachim "un-intentional" dipping when starting the dap: Common, aquin! Joachim should know that Jenny Simpson daps well! But he seems convinced his (often not hard) dick was too big for the girl. It helps his ego to do so, its nothing about the girl! And its just boring for the viewer, because it looks lukewarm. :arrow: :(
(anyway, we should dicuss this in detail a bit later on, I guess)
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby aquin on Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:02 am

dap-addict wrote:I cannot see a pro in the fact that the anal starts after 7:45 minutes. :(

Anal should start at half the rime running. Joachim clearly spends too much time with that boring dildo action.

well, dap-addict, you are right Vanda's first with 5:10, and this is a true advantage for her scene. again i would say: she wins the competition with Jenny.

dap-addict wrote:
As for Joachim "un-intentional" dipping when starting the dap: Common, aquin! Joachim should know that Jenny Simpson daps well! But he seems convinced his (often not hard) dick was too big for the girl. It helps his ego to do so, its nothing about the girl! And its just boring for the viewer, because it looks lukewarm. :arrow: :(
(anyway, we should dicuss this in detail a bit later on, I guess)


as a final judgement i would say that Jenny's performance although she is a good dap-performer lacks intensitiy and passion whereas Vanda provides both. you get the feeling that Vanda fully loves the dap-action (although we know they do it for the money :wink: ) and Jenny just tries to count down the minutes. giorgio forces the girl much better than joachim, g. focusses on the performance, j. on something different which i cannot tell.
Vanda wins. let's switch to sasha vs amber
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby Wiskus on Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:04 pm

aquin wrote:as a final judgement i would say that Jenny's performance although she is a good dap-performer lacks intensitiy and passion whereas Vanda provides both. you get the feeling that Vanda fully loves the dap-action (although we know they do it for the money :wink: ) and Jenny just tries to count down the minutes. giorgio forces the girl much better than joachim, g. focusses on the performance, j. on something different which i cannot tell.
Vanda wins. let's switch to sasha vs amber
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I disagree with you, because Jenny's potential is huge. It seems that she is expecting more vicious acts, and that film makers and actors cannot answer her needs. When you think she looks bored, it is only because she wants more sex, and her partners do not give her what she wants.
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Re: Vanda (2CnC1) vs. Jenny Simpson (TCB4)

Postby dap-addict on Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:47 am

That`s an interesting point!
Can you proofe that with another Jenny Simpson dap-scene, Wiskus?

for aquin: Not sure why Jenny vs. Joachim/Vadim dont passionates me anymore either. It`s Joachims fault, rather, though. Maybe she can really do more. I am not that familiar with her performances, though. I shall also re-watch again before going on to Sasha Rose vs. Amber and check first how she reacts on Vadim. :arrow: :idea:
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