Working conditions on Russian Porn sets

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

What a shocker !

I thought porn prodction companies were on some kind of humanitarian mission to save all the lost souls of the world.

[LubaLove]

Hmmm... About St-P shootings.... As for me - the main Sin-Sin problem (I'm only about locations now) - that ALL their shootings are productin in this only one room. The price for good furnitured 3-rooms flat which can be used as shooting location is 300-400$ per day. its abslutely possible to shoot 5-7 scenes in it - and i dont think that 200$ per film will be so expensive for studio.

About medical tests. This year they require ONLY blood tests -- AIDS, syphilis, hepetitis B, C . Thats all.
It makes girls nervious - cause gonorrhea and so on - are .... not the thing anybody want. There was not troubles with professional actors such as Joachim, Franko or Wesley --- but newbi girls in girl-girl-girl-boy scenes can be ..... not so clean. This is a serios problem, fear in process cant help model make good show.

Then - (hope Sabrina and Maggie will visit this topic - they have details) - its something horrible with shoot organization. Nowtimes when they invite model at 10-00 AM -- the shooting begins at 5-6 PM. That is.... horrible.

Any more questions??

[dap-addict]

I saw some of your films, Juliana. Bareback rides with intense anal sex, DP, double anal, cumshots in the ass, ATP. Stick to it! I know that it is high risk level. If you did that in these conditions you are real extreme girl, Juliana. But take care about your health, please. We wait for new films with you!

I really dont like the paternalizing tone of this post.
I mean cleopatroux, the answer you got from Juliana tells it all: You are not talking with little girls here, but professionals knowing their job! They know it`s risks, the biz, the market etc. Is that so difficult to understand?
Why always talk about condoms when everybody knows that non niche condom porn is unreal, that it`s like talking about excempting all Russian girls from the Schengen visa rules - just telling fairy tales. Instead of "But take care about your health, please"-calls, lets better use our customer power to press on those companies to at least comply with Budapest/Prague testing standards and civilized human hygienic room rules.

[dap-addict]

What a shocker !
I thought porn prodction companies were on some kind of humanitarian mission to save all the lost souls of the world.

I partly agree with your sarcasm.
I mean of course porn companies need to think about profit! (to camaban)
And I wrote it in that famous Wiska VIP discussions, if we talk about fees and prices we have to remember that Budapest and Prague fees went up so crazy in recent years that shooting in cheaper Russia was just a matter of time. And a way to survive for many studios. Also we have to remember that the Piter going rates are really high compared the average Russian wages and living costs. Shooting porn in Piter is actually good money for these girls.
Another thing is that colonialistic attitude of some of those Western producers shooting there, this contempt for Russian girls health, for basic rules of civilized society. Like that SinSin company and others saveing the 20$ for the claning lady, and the 50$ for the tests. I mean if you get an anal for 4 times less than in Budapest, you can well afford a few bucks for hygiene and tests, no!!??

[gapelover]

What a shocker !
I thought porn prodction companies were on some kind of humanitarian mission to save all the lost souls of the world.

I partly agree with your sarcasm.
I mean of course porn companies need to think about profit! (to camaban)
And I wrote it in that famous Wiska VIP discussions, if we talk about fees and prices we have to remember that Budapest and Prague fees went up so crazy in recent years that shooting in cheaper Russia was just a matter of time. And a way to survive for many studios. Also we have to remember that the Piter going rates are really high compared the average Russian wages and living costs. Shooting porn in Piter is actually good money for these girls.
Another thing is that colonialistic attitude of some of those Western producers shooting there, this contempt for Russian girls health, for basic rules of civilized society. Like that SinSin company and others saveing the 20$ for the claning lady, and the 50$ for the tests. I mean if you get an anal for 4 times less than in Budapest, you can well afford a few bucks for hygiene and tests, no!!??

Maybe you are some kind of schyzophrenic. You care so much about the working conditions in Russia and you are so compassionate to protect the girls with tests, but to open the girls ass with 2 dicks is OK for you, haha ! Are you sure the girls will like the DAP ? No, they do the DAP for a few extra bucks only (let's say 50% more) and because of guys like you are pushing them.
Of course all needed tests for the actors should be done regulary, but any discussion if the set, kitchen or toilet is cleaned every day is hilarious. As i know SinSin have a cleaning lady, but if you are shooting nearly every day like they do, the set can't be cleaned every day. A shooting day with 2 scenes starts at 10-11 am and ends at 23-24pm if all works fine !
But go on with your stupid discussions ! You have never visited a porn set don't you ?

Now something of extra info for everyone:
Why do you think all porn producers needs to reduce production costs ?
Because of all the free stuff is available on torrents and forums with rapidshare links ! If a movie is brand new you will see it on the next day on torrent. Productions in Buda and Prague are going down, you can imagine why, maybe prices for shooting is to high ???
To produce a DVD is not only about to pay the studio, cameraman, actor and actresses. You need to pay the editors, distributors, DVD dublication and so on. I am sure all assholes which are downloading all for free will see less new movies in the future ! Think of it !
Sineplex new movies will be DRM protected for online release, finally when they got their money back the DVD release without protection will follow a few month later.

[dap-addict]

Kind of typical gapelover defense. Mixing all up (what has the porn act shot to do with hygenic conditions? ) and stressing again it was not possible to find 10 mins to clean between two sets.
Not to mention the missing tests on Sin-Sin sets!

Defend Sin-Sin if you like, but do it sensible, please!


Btw, fully agree about 2nd part of your post.

[gapelover]

Kind of typical gapelover defense. Mixing all up (what has the porn act shot to do with hygenic conditions? )

It has something to do with your schyzophrenic mind - 2 dicks in the ass is OK and it will hurt the girls, but only in hygenic conditions please.

and stressing again it was not possible to find 10 mins to clean between two sets.

You can't stress anyone and you have no rights. How will you know about missing tests, are you the producer ? If the cleaning lady is around she would find 10 minutes to clean, but she's not around every day.

[LubaLove]

Sineplex new movies will be DRM protected for online release, finally when they got their money back the DVD release without protection will follow a few month later.

This is great way. Without any smiling. Thanks SinSin for it.

A shooting day with 2 scenes starts at 10-11 am and ends at 23-24pm if all works fine ! ............ But go on with your stupid discussions ! You have never visited a porn set don't you ?

I'd visit Belive me - i'd saw better organization. 11-13 hours for 2 scenes (2-3 hours screentime) is tooooo long. BTW - it began when SinSin changed cameramen. PatriXXX was great, JaySin was sometimes crazy - but good too.... Now they use guys without personal "view of scene" and without fantazy.

[camaban]

What a shocker !
I thought porn prodction companies were on some kind of humanitarian mission to save all the lost souls of the world.

I partly agree with your sarcasm.
I mean of course porn companies need to think about profit! (to camaban)
And I wrote it in that famous Wiska VIP discussions, if we talk about fees and prices we have to remember that Budapest and Prague fees went up so crazy in recent years that shooting in cheaper Russia was just a matter of time. And a way to survive for many studios. Also we have to remember that the Piter going rates are really high compared the average Russian wages and living costs. Shooting porn in Piter is actually good money for these girls.
Another thing is that colonialistic attitude of some of those Western producers shooting there, this contempt for Russian girls health, for basic rules of civilized society. Like that SinSin company and others saveing the 20$ for the claning lady, and the 50$ for the tests. I mean if you get an anal for 4 times less than in Budapest, you can well afford a few bucks for hygiene and tests, no!!??

Maybe you are some kind of schyzophrenic. You care so much about the working conditions in Russia and you are so compassionate to protect the girls with tests, but to open the girls ass with 2 dicks is OK for you, haha ! Are you sure the girls will like the DAP ? No, they do the DAP for a few extra bucks only (let's say 50% more) and because of guys like you are pushing them.
Of course all needed tests for the actors should be done regulary, but any discussion if the set, kitchen or toilet is cleaned every day is hilarious. As i know SinSin have a cleaning lady, but if you are shooting nearly every day like they do, the set can't be cleaned every day. A shooting day with 2 scenes starts at 10-11 am and ends at 23-24pm if all works fine !
But go on with your stupid discussions ! You have never visited a porn set don't you ?

Now something of extra info for everyone:
Why do you think all porn producers needs to reduce production costs ?
Because of all the free stuff is available on torrents and forums with rapidshare links ! If a movie is brand new you will see it on the next day on torrent. Productions in Buda and Prague are going down, you can imagine why, maybe prices for shooting is to high ???
To produce a DVD is not only about to pay the studio, cameraman, actor and actresses. You need to pay the editors, distributors, DVD dublication and so on. I am sure all assholes which are downloading all for free will see less new movies in the future ! Think of it !
Sineplex new movies will be DRM protected for online release, finally when they got their money back the DVD release without protection will follow a few month later.

To the first part better no comment from me. To the second part I fully agree. I fear that I can't buy a DVD from my favorite films in the future. Or only months later, when the money is made. Oh man, how I hate torrent, rapidshare and especially the people who don't want to pay for anything. I'm sure you right, they will get fewer movies in the future. And the ones who are the unguilty idiots are the fans who want their porn on DVD or BlueRay.

[camaban]

Sineplex new movies will be DRM protected for online release, finally when they got their money back the DVD release without protection will follow a few month later.

This is great way. Without any smiling. Thanks SinSin for it.

A shooting day with 2 scenes starts at 10-11 am and ends at 23-24pm if all works fine ! ............ But go on with your stupid discussions ! You have never visited a porn set don't you ?

I'd visit Belive me - i'd saw better organization. 11-13 hours for 2 scenes (2-3 hours screentime) is tooooo long. BTW - it began when SinSin changed cameramen. PatriXXX was great, JaySin was sometimes crazy - but good too.... Now they use guys without personal "view of scene" and without fantazy.

Yes these two were really great directors. Today most of the films that are produced by Sin (and Devils too) is only commodity. They produce too much instead of looking for quality. And they have no own ideas like Jay Sin had (Winkers, Kiss My Ass, Pushers, ...).

[dap-addict]

How will you know about missing tests, are you the producer ? If the cleaning lady is around she would find 10 minutes to clean, but she's not around every day.

Did you read this tread, gapelover?
Did you care to read it at all?
What did Juliana write?
(and will you attack her now like to attacked Wiska?)
Btw in your Sineplex tread somebody trusting you still - was it systemdoll? - asked exactly to ask Juliana instead of Wiska, now you have her answer...



And for the cleaning: What is the problem for Sin-Sin to pay 20$ per shooting day to a cleaning lady?
Do they dont have this money because they have to collect every dollar to pay GL a planeticket to Piter one every three years?

[gapelover]

Sineplex new movies will be DRM protected for online release, finally when they got their money back the DVD release without protection will follow a few month later.

This is great way. Without any smiling. Thanks SinSin for it.

A shooting day with 2 scenes starts at 10-11 am and ends at 23-24pm if all works fine ! ............ But go on with your stupid discussions ! You have never visited a porn set don't you ?

I'd visit Belive me - i'd saw better organization. 11-13 hours for 2 scenes (2-3 hours screentime) is tooooo long. BTW - it began when SinSin changed cameramen. PatriXXX was great, JaySin was sometimes crazy - but good too.... Now they use guys without personal "view of scene" and without fantazy.

You are right about the shooting time it's to long also including the make-up time, but as you know sometimes the models who are scheduled for a shooting never show up on set the next day, they don't take the job serious. Then they have to call many girls to get one scene done or everything is cancelled that day. Sometimes girls are waiting for the second or third girl to arrive. Maybe it's not well organized but it depends on the models too.
I agree about JaySin scenes and spoke to Peter to use more of his imagination to create more variety and better scenes. Everyone knows that the customers don't want to get boring scenes !

[SabrinaRedhart]

Yes! some studios in Saint -Petersburg need to think about cleening process & shooting organisation. Cose sometimes there was shootings (on sineplex olso) when pause between make up & the begining of shooting is 3-6 hours!!!

[gapelover]

How will you know about missing tests, are you the producer ? If the cleaning lady is around she would find 10 minutes to clean, but she's not around every day.

Did you read this tread, gapelover?
Did you care to read it at all?
What did Juliana write?
(and will you attack her now like to attacked Wiska?)
Btw in your Sineplex tread somebody trusting you still - was it systemdoll? - asked exactly to ask Juliana instead of Wiska, now you have her answer...



And for the cleaning: What is the problem for Sin-Sin to pay 20$ per shooting day to a cleaning lady?
Do they dont have this money because they have to collect every dollar to pay GL a planeticket to Piter one every three years?

Yes i read this thread and it's not your or mine problem if the set are not clean enough, it's the problem of the producers and the actors. They have to work there and have to sort out such things. NOT YOU AND NOT ME !!!
And i hate your sarcsm in every post.
Juliana said it's a main problem on porn sets in Russia without regular tests and less clean sets. And it's not only the problem in Sin sets.
Maybe there's a main cleaning problem in St.Petersburg, you should visit some toilets in restaurant or at fast food shops. You will wonder !

[RedMaggie]

Maybe better to pay girls extra 20$ for cleaning, lol

I can't say something bad about Sin, maybe because I had only one scene there.. yes it was quite longer that CAN be(maybe +2 hours) but didn't take all my day.

And about studios and toilets.. I saw lot of dirty flats for shooting and lot of clean toilets... not sure it's a problem of my city in general