Prague report - is it accurate

[STEMCELL]

In Prague lot's of agencies which offer girls for shooting, but this agencies offer only Czech girls. Almost no Russian/Ukrainian girls offering. Think the main problem for agencies - girl must be all time in Prague, if somebody want to select her for shooting. Russian/Ukrainian can return back in their countries...

Plus UA/RUS girls need a visa to stay - which is given to a definite (usually shorter) period of time.

So Russia must join the EU asap for erotic reasons, right?
Lets start a referendum in France with the question:
Who do you want to join the EU? Turkey or Russia/Ukraine?

[dap-addict]

he almost completely retired from shooting. He do not have own agency.
He offer own price, of course, and it's cheaper price. He do need to pay comission to agencies in case with newspaper announce.

I dont know about the plans of your friend, BEP, but why dont you suggest to him to switch to running a small agency specializing in Russian/Ukrainian girls living already in Czech? He could get them from those newspaper anouncements and offer them for a bit cheeper fees than the agencies representing Czech girls.
I am sure this could be a nice little porn business!

[cognitos]

I bet that some of those girls you see working a lot (Jane Darling, Angel Dark, Monica Sweetheart) would own several apartments and would be considered very very well off by Czech standards.

I don't think so -- If you were rich, would you have a cock up your ass, one in your mouth, and another in your pussy; plus a stomach full of cum for $700 a day....?

[Aussie Mike]

cognitos wrote:

I don't think so -- If you were rich, would you have a cock up your ass, one in your mouth, and another in your pussy; plus a stomach full of cum for $700 a day....?


Obviously you've never lived in the czech republic or have a clue of the economic situation cognitos. $700 is the average MONTHLY wage in the Czech republic. In porn a girl can earn that (or even more) in a day.

And remember, just ten years ago the average MONTHLY wage in czech was only $200. So yeah, by czech standards they are rich. Didn't you ever why so many truly hot chicks went into porn in Eastern Europe? By Czech standards the money is incredible.

[robot]

I bet that some of those girls you see working a lot (Jane Darling, Angel Dark, Monica Sweetheart) would own several apartments and would be considered very very well off by Czech standards.

I don't think so -- If you were rich, would you have a cock up your ass, one in your mouth, and another in your pussy; plus a stomach full of cum for $700 a day....?

although i understand the reaction, i have to say: if you have no clue, just don't post anything, dude. aussie mike is right.

i know this is a fan discussion, but sometimes it crosses the line when entire threads are made from total outsiders voicing their "advices" and opinions on something they have no clue about.

[getting off the soap box.]

[cognitos]

cognitos wrote:

I don't think so -- If you were rich, would you have a cock up your ass, one in your mouth, and another in your pussy; plus a stomach full of cum for $700 a day....?


Obviously you've never lived in the czech republic or have a clue of the economic situation cognitos. $700 is the average MONTHLY wage in the Czech republic. In porn a girl can earn that (or even more) in a day.

And remember, just ten years ago the average MONTHLY wage in czech was only $200. So yeah, by czech standards they are rich. Didn't you ever why so many truly hot chicks went into porn in Eastern Europe? By Czech standards the money is incredible.

I agree -- earning $700 a day is big money in Prague, Budapest, or Bucharest. In fact, it is pretty good money in LA, or London. If you were rich though -- and hadn't wasted all that money on demanding / greedy boyfriends, expensive clothes, etc. then you wouldn't shoot porn. The girls don't shoot porn because they like it -- they do it because they need the money. If you were loaded you wouldn't bother getting spit roasted and drip dried for $700, would you...?

If you shoot 100 porn movies for $700 each, but spend nearly all of that cash on living the high life -- there aint going to be much left. I don't think the price of Prada, Gucci, and Louis Vuitton is index linked to the cost of living in the Czech Republic. That is why so many of these models are escorts as well as model. Easy come -- easy go!

[alexxx]

cognitos wrote:

I don't think so -- If you were rich, would you have a cock up your ass, one in your mouth, and another in your pussy; plus a stomach full of cum for $700 a day....?


Obviously you've never lived in the czech republic or have a clue of the economic situation cognitos. $700 is the average MONTHLY wage in the Czech republic. In porn a girl can earn that (or even more) in a day.

And remember, just ten years ago the average MONTHLY wage in czech was only $200. So yeah, by czech standards they are rich. Didn't you ever why so many truly hot chicks went into porn in Eastern Europe? By Czech standards the money is incredible.

I agree -- earning $700 a day is big money in Prague, Budapest, or Bucharest. In fact, it is pretty good money in LA, or London. If you were rich though -- and hadn't wasted all that money on demanding / greedy boyfriends, expensive clothes, etc. then you wouldn't shoot porn. The girls don't shoot porn because they like it -- they do it because they need the money. If you were loaded you wouldn't bother getting spit roasted and drip dried for $700, would you...?

If you shoot 100 porn movies for $700 each, but spend nearly all of that cash on living the high life -- there aint going to be much left. I don't think the price of Prada, Gucci, and Louis Vuitton is index linked to the cost of living in the Czech Republic. That is why so many of these models are escorts as well as model. Easy come -- easy go!

Well, I’m not completely sure about that.
Mind Brigitte Bui, one of the most beautiful girl in porn in my opinion!
She has a lot of money but wanted to act in order to become more famous. Her only privilege was to choose her partners. Unfortunately she didn’t get attention as much as Paris Hilton but she’s surely better! In fact Brigitte does real, good porn where everybody can take a look in her billionaire mega-pussy. The great Larry Flint too was amazed!

For sure she is a noticeable exception but for some girls is not just a question of money. It’s also getting attention and I think porn is the good way to obtain that for girls who have body, mindset and willing.
And finally this is more honest and respectable than sleeping in the bed of some some rich bastard.

[marmaduke]

The girls don't shoot porn because they like it -- they do it because they need the money.

Maybe. My take is that the girls want lots of money and they don't mind doing porn to get it.

[dap-addict]

cognitos wrote:

I don't think so -- If you were rich, would you have a cock up your ass, one in your mouth, and another in your pussy; plus a stomach full of cum for $700 a day....?


Obviously you've never lived in the czech republic or have a clue of the economic situation cognitos. $700 is the average MONTHLY wage in the Czech republic. In porn a girl can earn that (or even more) in a day.

For sure she is a noticeable exception but for some girls is not just a question of money. It’s also getting attention and I think porn is the good way to obtain that for girls who have body, mindset and willing.

While I dont think we´d find many girls who would work on a porn set for free, it sounds like a cheep slope to repeat on and on that all these girls do it for the money only. JYL says in his recent Private interview that 90% of the girls are doing porn for the money. Just try to catch each tenth Eurobabe doing it not for the money, they are quite easy to spot. But also the 90% probabely have a wide range other motives besides money.
The world is just not as simple as it seems.

[alexxx]

Money or not it doesn't mean a performance will be better or not!
Newbies who earn few bucks and have no much money in their pockets (at least for the first shootings) can be hot as bigger pornstars.
For me it's question of mind!
If the girl is open-minded she will become really somebody in the biz... no matter how much we will pay her.
Otherwise you can pay for nothing...

[dap-addict]

For me it's question of mind!

Sure it is.
But what I always wondered is: How much can you push the personal enveloppe of a girl by proposing her more money? Say if a girl ticks "pussy only" in her model registration card, or "dp only"...

[alexxx]

For me it's question of mind!

Sure it is.
But what I always wondered is: How much can you push the personal enveloppe of a girl by proposing her more money? Say if a girl ticks "pussy only" in her model registration card, or "dp only"...

Well, for me it's not a question to push also if personally I asked to some girl to not hesitate to do more and she did.
In some cases money help: I saw girls doing anal or even DP after having said "no".
After all porn is not the biz for people who has tabous. That's why you may enjoy the hardest action with the nastiest girls...

[dap-addict]

Well, for me it's not a question to push also if personally I asked to some girl to not hesitate to do more and she did.
In some cases money help: I saw girls doing anal or even DP after having said "no".

"push" was the wrong word, sorry.
I´d rather call it "motivate". And I see more money offered is a motivation for many girls to go further than they planned filling in that madel form.

[alexxx]

Well, for me it's not a question to push also if personally I asked to some girl to not hesitate to do more and she did.
In some cases money help: I saw girls doing anal or even DP after having said "no".

"push" was the wrong word, sorry.
I´d rather call it "motivate". And I see more money offered is a motivation for many girls to go further than they planned filling in that madel form.

No problem... I understand what you mean.
FYI girls fill model cards only at the beginning if they pass through an agent. Otherwise they come and they discuss with the director.
It happens also after some shootings when the director expect the girl will do more.
Why? Because people (public,producer...) ask for that and because the girl understands better the biz and probably likes.
It's difficult to have a newbie doing a DP because she needs training but after some trials why not? If she wants to get in touch with some important agent or producer that's a good point.
The same happens with fisting or deepthroating or gangbang: it's rare to start a career in that way for obvious reasons but after the producer may ask (and pay) for.
For sure in some cases the new arrival (at least 18yo) is disposed to start with something heavy (DP, gangabang...): if it happens then you may say it is mainly for money! Nobody will stop these girls for the reason that public will appreciate but you will never be sure to see again the girl if she's not prepared to do that.
Otherwise porn is not easy biz but it can be rewarding.
Especially if you are available and have good connections
After all, we have more and more ex-pornstars who become tv stars or so on and for me that's simply good.
At least we will stop saying girls on tv are better than girls on porn!

[dap-addict]

For sure in some cases the new arrival (at least 18yo) is disposed to start with something heavy (DP, gangabang...): if it happens then you may say it is mainly for money! Nobody will stop these girls for the reason that public will appreciate but you will never be sure to see again the girl if she's not prepared to do that.

I can immagine how difficult a decision that it for a producer thinking a certain girl could build up a longer porn career!
At the same time if you have girls like those Ukrainian 18 y.o. from Lviv willing to do dap you mtioned, I guess it would be stupid to miss the chance to try to shoot it. Nodbody knows if such a girl turns up on set again even if she was prepared to do pussy only I guess.
Basically looks like trial and error, but very revarding in some cases for sure.