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Postby DigitalCopyright on Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:10 am

I'm not being funny but I suspect some people are divorced from reality here.

For instance, ask the average girl whether she prefers being slapped (certainly on the arse, even the face) or spat on to anal and I'm sure most would say they prefer the former. Most girls like a bit of rough but most do not like anal at all. That's undoubtedly a fact. How many girls like double penetration? I suspect very few unless they're paid rather large amounts of money.

I find it somewhat strange that individuals who like watching double penetration and double anal (two of the more extreme acts in porn) are shocked by the antics of Raul Christian.

Yes, I agree he is predictable and that his scenes are carbon copies of the last. Nonetheless, he satisfies a niche which too few European Pornographers have the werewithal to do. Most of his scenes contain cum swallowing which is still somewhat of a rarity in European porn surprisingly and gives him that advantage on the market. I've never understood why more European producers don't do this. They would make a lot more money certainly in the US market if they followed this approach.

I find it strange that Sativa Rose found it hard to a DP considering she did a scene with renowned slimeball Max Hardcore which incidentally contained copious amounts of throat fucking, puke, piss and anal.

Furthermore, I doubt many girls truly enjoy 2 cocks in them. After all, one should recognise that porn is made for men. And whilst I certainly don't get off on other people's misery, porn is like any other job...you have good days and bad days at the office. No career is perfect and obviously getting paid far in excess of the average annual wage should compensate for certain problems. Every employee wants their pound of flesh especially if they're going to pay for it.

If you're a trainee lawyer at major UK/US firm, you're expected to work stupendous hours and sacrifice your personal life as a result. Do a DP or DA in porn and a girl can expect lots of money...however, she may not enjoy it. I think most sensible porn girls are cognisant of this fact.
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:24 am

Jimbo0912 wrote:If you're a trainee lawyer at major UK/US firm, you're expected to work stupendous hours and sacrifice your personal life as a result. Do a DP or DA in porn and a girl can expect lots of money...however, she may not enjoy it. I think most sensible porn girls are cognisant of this fact.

In general I pefectly agree that this is just a job and the girls know what they are up to or who they are working with. Or at least they could easily inform themselfs.
The question is wheter Raul pays more even for the additional face and ass slapping?
Wheter they enjoy it or not is also highly dependant on their day, their attitude, their off-set sex practices etc. But one thing is for sure: Only those enjoying it can do their job good. :arrow: :idea:


Btw, if you are interested, we have a tread about this on EBI called "Do they enjoy it?" with lots of examples where it is clearly visible that they actually do.
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Postby DigitalCopyright on Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:38 am

dap-addict wrote:In general I pefectly agree that this is just a job and the girls know what they are up to or who they are working with. Or at least they could easily inform themselfs.
The question is wheter Raul pays more even for the additional face and ass slapping?
Wheter they enjoy it or not is also highly dependant on their day, their attitude, their off-set sex practices etc. But one thing is for sure: Only those enjoying it can do their job good. :arrow: :idea:

Btw, if you are interested, we have a tread about this on EBI called "Do they enjoy it?" with lots of examples where it is clearly visible that they actually do.


Thanks for the response dap-addict. I'm sure that some girls do enjoy DP/DA etc otherwise they wouldn't have been in the business for so long (Sandra Romain immediately comes to mind). After all, they're some girls out there who are just plain filth (in a good way of course).

In fact, I think most normal girls like to be dominated in some way (e.g. have their arses slapped, hair pulled during sex etc). I think face slapping is a bit different but I've done it and as long as it's playful and doesn't leave a mark then it's not a problem. Maybe I've been unlucky but I've never actually met a girl who would even entertain anal sex. I think this demonstrates that anal is a bit 'out there' to the average girl off the street.

Thus, I think a bit of perspective is needed when talking about certain sex acts on film. I think most porn viewers have become used to DP's on film (I know I have). Nevertheless, it is an extreme sex act and far more 'out there' than slapping a girls arse/face gently or even spitting into an open mouth.
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:53 am

Jimbo0912 wrote:I think this demonstrates that anal is a bit 'out there' to the average girl off the street.

Thus, I think a bit of perspective is needed when talking about certain sex acts on film. I think most porn viewers have become used to DP's on film (I know I have). Nevertheless, it is an extreme sex act and far more 'out there' than slapping a girls arse/face gently or even spitting into an open mouth.


Please dont generalize about anal based on your experience, Jimbo!
It really depends where you live, whom you meet, how you intruduce a girl to it etc.

But anyway, porn is fantasy basically, thus the upper question is not really relevant. The more as we agree that basically it`s a job like every other, too.
If we talk about Europorn I also wouldnt call dp an extreme act at all. In Europe (contrary to the US maybe still) only very very few girls can build a career or even get booked decently not performing anal, and dp is just the next small step.
Slapping on the other hand is not that common in the Europorn biz yet, but Raul may actually change that. As you say, if it doenst leave any marks and the girl knows that its an integral part of her job, I dont see a problem.

Still, as a consumer I rather dont enjoy that raul trademark - I enjoy really hard anal (and dap of course), though. And for other porn fans it may be vice-versa.
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Postby Mr. Peter on Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:33 pm

I think in Czech in average only about 10-20% of girls actually regulary practice anal sex in their private lives. The number is growing with young people opening their minds but I think no more that 20% actually and its the most optimistic rating.


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Postby dap-addict on Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:35 pm

Mr. Peter wrote:I think in Czech in average only about 10-20% of girls actually regulary practice anal sex in their private lives. The number is growing with young people opening their minds but I think no more that 20% actually and its the most optimistic rating.


Mr. Peter, thanks for your local Prague view, but I dont think it makes sense to share our sexual experiences with Czech girls here. :wink:
Fact is it is hardly possible to be successful as a porn model in Europe if a girl doesnt do anal at least. Every girl takeing the first step into porn knows about that or will very soon learn it. And it`s up to the porn profis to introduce her into anal if she happens to be still an anal virgin.
Anal in this terms is a simple basic job requirement such as you cannot be a photographer without knowing how to handle a camera.

This said, sure opening up minds of young people, new sex trends, porn life style culture etc. will make the life or professional porners easier. But the basis is still the girls will to do a good job (or the lack of it).
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Postby Mr. Peter on Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:48 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Mr. Peter wrote:I think in Czech in average only about 10-20% of girls actually regulary practice anal sex in their private lives. The number is growing with young people opening their minds but I think no more that 20% actually and its the most optimistic rating.


Mr. Peter, thanks for your local Prague view, but I dont think it makes sense to share our sexual experiences with Czech girls here. :wink:

Thats why I talked about regular lives, sex on the stage is a different story - most of the girls do their first anal on the camera and many of them do it only on the camera :cry: .

dap-addict wrote:Fact is it is hardly possible to be successful as a porn model in Europe if a girl doesnt do anal at least. Every girl takeing the first step into porn knows about that or will very soon learn it. And it`s up to the porn profis to introduce her into anal if she happens to be still an anal virgin.
Anal in this terms is a simple basic job requirement such as you cannot be a photographer without knowing how to handle a camera.


Speaking of hardcore porn - definitely yes. But in global view - I dont think so. Its the way of choice how you would like to work or became famous.


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