Do you have any question??

[Cactus Jack]

It's a shame that you are turned off by the "cheap russian porn sets" Julliana.
This makes it hard for you I reckon?
If things would improve there in SBP, we would get to see more enthusiastic performances from stars like you , and other sweet girls.
Maybe someone should send these producers a memo about the dodgy studios...?

[dap-addict]

It's a shame that you are turned off by the "cheap russian porn sets" Julliana.
(...)Maybe someone should send these producers a memo about the dodgy studios...?

It`s a two sided story here. And those who care about know the studios you talk about Cactus, anyway. Also some are more and some less dodgy.
Fact is working outside Russia Juliana can earn 3 to 6 times more for the same acts (depending on wheter she`s booked in Budapest, in Milan etc.).
Especially in Italy the porn sets itself including the girls styling are also more refined. Now this all attracted Russian/Ukrainian talent before Juliana - like Wiska or Cherry Jul - and made them not only avoid shooting in Russia but also much more critic about the whole porn biz there.
At the same time (and this is the other side) the porn biz needs the cheeper Russian fees and those do-anything Russian cuties to at least cross-finance more expensive productions. Things are bound to improve in SPB and I do hope smart girls like Juliana will have an important part in it.

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

one day will come time - when i will stat to shoot good quality porn in my city... i had learned a lot about porn industry in last 2 years for start my project, had a good teachers and best examples...... it will be porn revolution in russia... but not now... its not right moment for start...

[Camarillobrillo]

And when it will be we'll follow your revolution Juliana...no doubts about it

[dap-addict]

one day will come time - when i will stat to shoot good quality porn in my city... i had learned a lot about porn industry in last 2 years for start my project, had a good teachers and best examples...... it will be porn revolution in russia... but not now... its not right moment for start...

I am very glad to hear you plan to start your own St. Peterburg porn biz in the near furture!
Sure you can bring in a lot of experience indeed.
But while playing safer and caring more about set details please try to keep the fees on an acceptable level allowing directors to still cross-finance the more expensive Budapest or Milan based girls. Quality has its price, but nobody will pay too much for it. SPB is not LA - and it may only become the real porn acpital if services and fees will finally attract lots of directors instead of just a few.

I guess the time is right in about 1 or 2 years, Juliana, what do you think?

[pplolo]

with eastern europe currencies nose diving you do not really have to care about keeping low fees,
in local currency term it is now 30% cheaper to do the same job for an european or us cie!

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

yes now its good time to shoot porn for people that have euro and dollars... and also 50% of russians now loose there works - so many girls simply need money for live.. but i am russian also... so i am in the same asshole as everybody... now money that i get from normal work 2 times less (converting in euros) than 2 month ago...

[dap-addict]

now money that i get from normal work 2 times less (converting in euros) than 2 month ago...

That`s bad indeed.
But at the same time, when working on a porn set, you get payed in USD and these dollars you can convert at a much better rate to rubles!
It`s actually a good deal for porn girls working in Piter at the moment!

But to start your own biz its more difficult of course because.

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

and you know also now to much changes in laws... all people that now working here is do not legal.. problem of russians laws that they all have double meaning... before i will have best lawer in porn question i will not do nothing (after 2 years of working i find that all girls that took money from foregn company must to declaire incoming money and pay tax in russia, dont have after problems with tax police)... and also to work without licence - its way to prison for me and deportation for foregn people... ofcourse you can close eyes to this problems and remember that corubtion for resolve all in russia still exist

[priapos]

Fascinating thread My thanks to Juliana and everyone else for the insights into the Russian scene

I hope you'll be able to realize your ambition, Juliana, and get into production/direction when the time is right. More than any other female talent on this forum, you seem to have a very strong interest in both the business and the art of pornography. It's great to see you learning the biz and planning for your future. You also seem to be very well connected and respected in the industry, even tho you not afraid to speak your mind about controversial issues. Bravo girl

[camaban]

medvedev

But there's a Puppet Master behind him (no, not Rocco, Putin)

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

hahaha

[camaban]

At the same time (and this is the other side) the porn biz needs the cheeper Russian fees and those do-anything Russian cuties to at least cross-finance more expensive productions. Things are bound to improve in SPB and I do hope smart girls like Juliana will have an important part in it.

Why did the porn biz need cheap produced Russian Porn? No, it's the opposite, we need more quality in porn. The better days of porn are years ago when directors like Pierre Woodman did big budget movies and nearly all important US directors shot in Prague and Budapest very often. In these days there was a lot of variation, you could choose what you want to buy from a great collection of new movies. I also don't see how this cheap productions finance expensive big budget movies, because all companies who produce this cheap porn are not known for spending money also for a big production?

Today many companies think that quantity wins over quality. The viewer is saturated with way too much fast and cheap produced, boring porn. Too much producers only concentrate on the acts, thinking that it is enough to book Russian girls for cheap money and bringing them to do circus acts like DAP. Sadly many porn fans seems satified with what they get her. Too often I heard that so many only are interested in the acts and positions, instead of chemistry between the actors, camera angles, locations, if the girl feels comfortable, teasing before the actual sex ...

In my opinion European porn today sucks, there's only a few producers and directors who really care for their product, trying to give the consumer the best. But the big bulk is only interested in fast money: Cheap productions with maximum benefits.

[pplolo]

It seems what we have seen from now is just the tip of the iceberg....
If you remember what happened to iceland or the asian crisis(people saying eastern countries are worst fitted than asian one at the time...) it may be really nasty....
Thes articles are somewhat technical but it gives you some insight on how people sees the fondamentals....
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/02/18/52611/5-reasons-to-remain-bearish-on-cee/
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/02/18/52632/ubs-no-eastern-european-meltdown/

The main point is that these countries are indebted so when the currency sink the amount they have to payback increases....
It is just like your overall income decreases because of the crisis but at the same time your bank is telling you that the rule changed and now you need to payback 150 for the 100 you borrowed last year....

I do not know if this will lead to at least,social unrest,but if you remember the lyrics "when you got nothing....you got nothing to loose..."

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

this week 72000 russians loosed work... so now total ammount over 6 million people without work in my country...