Working conditions on Russian Porn sets

[OneWhoKnows]

OK, as this topic has been discussed in so many different threads and it's hard to keep track of the discussion, I thought it's a good idea to open an own thread for this, because:

1. Sometimes the conditions on set in St. Petersburg, especially regarding hygiene, really seem to be pretty bad, it's something that needs to be discussed. People who can comment about it because they have personal experiences with it like Giorgio, Juliana and Joachim are more than invited to do so in here.

2. The original threads (Sineplex girls thread, Wiska, Juliana, Joachim threads) should be there for what they were intended for again - updates on girls and questions to the person the thread is about.

Oh, and it would be nice if it's possible to keep the discussion objective and several people (you know who) don't feel the need to express once again that they dislike a certain person or company.

Happy posting!

[dap-addict]

Happy posting!

Being funny like gapelover?


Better read this:

I do not wish to work with Sineplex!
After shootings for me always problems when I come back home! I do the test, and at me not all by way of and it is necessary to be treated! At studio where remove dirtly! Pay a little money and all is bad it is organized! Me forgot to feed, and remove sometimes at night! A unique sofa on which remove all in sperm and excrements! And me conditions but when I came all promised to improve each time remains without changes! Last time I was on in June and have remained not happy! I was ill, I had a heat, and me all forced to work! And I was ill on their fault as I had to go all the day on cold St. Peter, they removed interview

(from Wiskas VIP tread, page 12ff)
Lots of more troubling info to be found in Juliana Grandis VIP tread and basically our main Sineplex tread - despite some folks trying to ban that discussion from there.


Btw, I wonder what Kovi would have faced had EBI existed in his Budapest pioneer days?
The start is always wild, but true porn girl`s fans can help keeping minimal standards - also voting with their wallets.

[Lange]

What I don't get is this: If Wiska thinks the work conditions are so awful. Then why would she have done a ton of scenes for them???

[dap-addict]

What I don't get is this: If Wiska thinks the work conditions are so awful. Then why would she have done a ton of scenes for them???

Because at that time there was no porn work alternative at that time in Piter.
Now there is, I guess.

[paroxysmia]

I'm waiting for the comment of Wishka !

[Lange]

Because at that time there was no porn work alternative at that time in Piter.
Now there is, I guess.

You talk as if there is no other alternative. There is. Do something else for a living. I know that she wanted to do porn but if I had a job where work conditions were awful I would find something else to do even if it meant that I had to take a different kind of job. Nobody should accept working under bad conditions.

[OneWhoKnows]

Lots of more troubling info to be found in Juliana Grandis VIP tread and basically our main Sineplex tread - despite some folks trying to ban that discussion from there.

I did not try to ban it from that thread, I just thought that the thread got very confusing and the discussion became more and more unobjective.

About Sineplex setting the standards - I don't know about that. They are the western pioneers shooting in Piter, though a lot of Russian producers, working mainly for websites, began to shoot there much earlier. What I don't know is, if they just "copied" the bad working conditions of the existing studios or if it's just Sineplex who doesn't care.

Therefore, I'd really like to hear a comment of Juliana or any other performer who shoots in Piter. How are the working conditions for Sineplex compared to producers like Teencore, Adult Frame, GeoXXX or Helen (aka Elena N.)? Worse? I once read an interview with this girl, where she stated that she prefers to work for Russian producers, because they treat the girls better compared to producers from the west. Interesting statement, that is.

[OneWhoKnows]

Hmm, I have to correct myself. What I said about teh terrible conditions on the Robert Rosenberg set (posted in the Sineplex thread), which you can see here:

http://www.robert-rosenberg.com/fotogalerie/cesta-do-ruska.html

...well, that actually IS the Sineplex set. These pics are from the shootings for "Cream Pie Orgy 7", a Sineplex Studio production for Devil's Film. I dunno if that bathroom on the first page belongs to the studio or just Robert's hotelroom. Anyway, it looks VERY messy, and so do the rooms around the set with all those garbage bags. Any comments from people who know the location? Is it always as dirty??

[sbando]

No one can ban any relevant discussion from here, if Sineplex wants to reply they're welcome to do it in this or other threads. In the past they let us know through Gapelover that they had nothing to say on this subject, so they never tried to censore anything.

[dap-addict]

No one can ban any relevant discussion from here, if Sineplex wants to reply they're welcome to do it in this or other threads. In the past they let us know through Gapelover that they had nothing to say on this subject, so they never tried to censore anything.

Well, gapelover`s comments for sure were more than saying nothing or having nothing to say. A kind of smart censorship.
On the other hand the way they told him to adress mentioned doubts, concerns and critic revealed probabely more than Sineplex intended to reveal. And this may be the reason gapelover keeps his mouth quite shut lately.
Anyway, if Javier finds time to chat with gapelover he`d find also time to write here directly. But no answer is also an answer.

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

wow! what fantastic things you are discussing here!!

[camaban]

wow! what fantastic things you are discussing here!!

Could you go a litte bit in detail, Juliana? How are the working conditions in comparison to Russian companies or Rocco?

[camaban]

Hmm, I have to correct myself. What I said about teh terrible conditions on the Robert Rosenberg set (posted in the Sineplex thread), which you can see here:

http://www.robert-rosenberg.com/fotogalerie/cesta-do-ruska.html

...well, that actually IS the Sineplex set. These pics are from the shootings for "Cream Pie Orgy 7", a Sineplex Studio production for Devil's Film. I dunno if that bathroom on the first page belongs to the studio or just Robert's hotelroom. Anyway, it looks VERY messy, and so do the rooms around the set with all those garbage bags. Any comments from people who know the location? Is it always as dirty??

I concerned about the cheap and dirty locations, the same 2 or 3 rooms, the same 2 or 3 couches, ... long ago in the Sineplex thread and was bashed away why I care so much about the surrounding of the set. I should look at the action, but if the action is lame you also register more details around. It seems now people care more about that, and that's good.

Sineplex simply shoots as cheap as possible, but now that their Russian monpol is wobbling they seems to be in real trouble or why no release since weeks and why is gapelover so quiet now?

[tami flu]

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[dap-addict]

when gapelover was in st. petersburg, he was everybody´s darling,
and now it´s again gapelover = sineplex = bad & dirty... ?

Not exactly, when gapelover was in St. Peterburg I asked him to have a look wheter the Sineplex sets were really dirty. And you know what he wrote back? Yes, they were dirty - but the girls should clean up the dirt themselfs. (all to be read in the Sineplex tread)
Now, former Sineplex models have complained about hygienic conditions of their shots, about being sick afterwards etc.
I dont think that`s something we shold not be concerned about if we want our Russian cuties to last in this biz for more than 3 shots!
It`s not about furniture, not about limited number of lacations, but hygienic conditions on their sets!
It`s not bashing a certain company - if you know about similar problems of companies shooting in Russia write it in here, please!!! - but caring about cute girls we want to continue their porn career.