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Surprise Beauty?

Postby Billbo on Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:00 am

"Surprise Beauty?" In other words, dishonest. :shock:
Generally, one doesn't pay a model or "actress" in the U.S. until after the shoot. For most matters of more than a few hundred dollars, a contract is mandatory and a contract is generally very specific and is not easily broken. There may be an advance and certainly travel expenses are paid in advance, but payment is after the job is done, like any job. If someone demanded double money part way through a project, then their part of the project ends right then and they are sent home without payment. Breach of contract. If they only finished half the job, that is still breach of contract. If the breach is sufficient and premeditated, it constitutes fraud, which is a crime. A model who does that kind of thing generally cannot get away with it for long as there are always other models to photograph or film. Lack of professionalism and a bad attitude ends a career in a hurry.
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Re: Surprise Beauty?

Postby alexxx on Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:12 pm

Billbo wrote:"Surprise Beauty?" In other words, dishonest. :shock:
Generally, one doesn't pay a model or "actress" in the U.S. until after the shoot. For most matters of more than a few hundred dollars, a contract is mandatory and a contract is generally very specific and is not easily broken. There may be an advance and certainly travel expenses are paid in advance, but payment is after the job is done, like any job. If someone demanded double money part way through a project, then their part of the project ends right then and they are sent home without payment. Breach of contract. If they only finished half the job, that is still breach of contract. If the breach is sufficient and premeditated, it constitutes fraud, which is a crime. A model who does that kind of thing generally cannot get away with it for long as there are always other models to photograph or film. Lack of professionalism and a bad attitude ends a career in a hurry.


I dont think Angel is a criminal... I saw many girls not really convinced in what they were doing and then complaining or even crying on the set.
Usually it happens if the girl has to do something for few bucks or no bucks at all! But I don't think is the case of Angel.
Generally in Europe apply the same rules than in USA (especially if you work for a US company) but you try always to give one chance to a girl if she deserves.
DP and cum are part of porn; DAP and swallows are for porn-stars!
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Postby cognitos on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:06 pm

From Twistys :)
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Re: Surprise Beauty?

Postby Ricardo Soli on Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:32 pm

alexxx wrote:
Billbo wrote:"Surprise Beauty?" In other words, dishonest. :shock:
Generally, one doesn't pay a model or "actress" in the U.S. until after the shoot. For most matters of more than a few hundred dollars, a contract is mandatory and a contract is generally very specific and is not easily broken. There may be an advance and certainly travel expenses are paid in advance, but payment is after the job is done, like any job. If someone demanded double money part way through a project, then their part of the project ends right then and they are sent home without payment. Breach of contract. If they only finished half the job, that is still breach of contract. If the breach is sufficient and premeditated, it constitutes fraud, which is a crime. A model who does that kind of thing generally cannot get away with it for long as there are always other models to photograph or film. Lack of professionalism and a bad attitude ends a career in a hurry.


I dont think Angel is a criminal... I saw many girls not really convinced in what they were doing and then complaining or even crying on the set.
Usually it happens if the girl has to do something for few bucks or no bucks at all! But I don't think is the case of Angel.
Generally in Europe apply the same rules than in USA (especially if you work for a US company) but you try always to give one chance to a girl if she deserves.

Angel isn't criminal. She just doesn't have the right attitude of work. When i saw a young girl starting her career like her i know from the beginning, she have to go a bit working in McDo for example, and later to come back. With my experience on hiring beginners on this adult world, i feel guilty when i saw everybody is amused only about her body&looking without to think what kind of support gives to a baby in her mind.
You can search on bullz-eye.com to see for what kind of pics. she was asking for double fee ( the offered fee it was a fee usually payd for lesbian hardcore for famous pornstars), when other girls like Boroka, Lara Stevens, etc. were glad to do it for free, only to get some pics on theyre portfolio. And the worst thing is she's offering at the end herself for escorting for the half price of the shooting at the end to my client. You think for shure we need to support this kind of models?
You saw her looking at you from a pick, sexy? Or you're amazed only about things i writed you before?

look on the pick choosed and posted by you. What i realise, is only the fact she's waiting to finish the shooting, to get her duplicated fees, and to go for shopping. She doesn't open her fingers, she doesn't push her as a bit, she's looking bored at all.
1 year and she will be or a drug addict, or a fat woman. I feel guilty cuz i've convinced her to be a model. :oops: :idea:
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Re: Surprise Beauty?

Postby alexxx on Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:21 pm

Ricardo Soli wrote:Angel isn't criminal. She just doesn't have the right attitude of work. When i saw a young girl starting her career like her i know from the beginning, she have to go a bit working in McDo for example, and later to come back. With my experience on hiring beginners on this adult world, i feel guilty when i saw everybody is amused only about her body&looking without to think what kind of support gives to a baby in her mind.
You can search on bullz-eye.com to see for what kind of pics. she was asking for double fee ( the offered fee it was a fee usually payd for lesbian hardcore for famous pornstars), when other girls like Boroka, Lara Stevens, etc. were glad to do it for free, only to get some pics on theyre portfolio. And the worst thing is she's offering at the end herself for escorting for the half price of the shooting at the end to my client. You think for shure we need to support this kind of models?
You saw her looking at you from a pick, sexy? Or you're amazed only about things i writed you before?

look on the pick choosed and posted by you. What i realise, is only the fact she's waiting to finish the shooting, to get her duplicated fees, and to go for shopping. She doesn't open her fingers, she doesn't push her as a bit, she's looking bored at all.
1 year and she will be or a drug addict, or a fat woman. I feel guilty cuz i've convinced her to be a model. :oops: :idea:


Ricardo I share 100% your view. I don't want to be misunderstood.
I don't defend her attitude. I say only to Bilbo she's not criminal but she has not the right attitude.
Agents and producers can only lost money if they work with this people.
On the other hand you always try and then you see: I saw in the past some casting in the style "try and go" and this is also is part of the biz.
For sure if the girl has no understood how it works she risks a lot.
If you have no character and no clear ideas being a pornstar is not easy... the people who know can understand what I mean.
DP and cum are part of porn; DAP and swallows are for porn-stars!
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Re: Surprise Beauty?

Postby Ricardo Soli on Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:59 pm

alexxx wrote:
Ricardo Soli wrote:Angel isn't criminal. She just doesn't have the right attitude of work. When i saw a young girl starting her career like her i know from the beginning, she have to go a bit working in McDo for example, and later to come back. With my experience on hiring beginners on this adult world, i feel guilty when i saw everybody is amused only about her body&looking without to think what kind of support gives to a baby in her mind.
You can search on bullz-eye.com to see for what kind of pics. she was asking for double fee ( the offered fee it was a fee usually payd for lesbian hardcore for famous pornstars), when other girls like Boroka, Lara Stevens, etc. were glad to do it for free, only to get some pics on theyre portfolio. And the worst thing is she's offering at the end herself for escorting for the half price of the shooting at the end to my client. You think for shure we need to support this kind of models?
You saw her looking at you from a pick, sexy? Or you're amazed only about things i writed you before?

look on the pick choosed and posted by you. What i realise, is only the fact she's waiting to finish the shooting, to get her duplicated fees, and to go for shopping. She doesn't open her fingers, she doesn't push her as a bit, she's looking bored at all.
1 year and she will be or a drug addict, or a fat woman. I feel guilty cuz i've convinced her to be a model. :oops: :idea:


Ricardo I share 100% your view. I don't want to be misunderstood.
I don't defend her attitude. I say only to Bilbo she's not criminal but she has not the right attitude.
Agents and producers can only lost money if they work with this people.
On the other hand you always try and then you see: I saw in the past some casting in the style "try and go" and this is also is part of the biz.
For sure if the girl has no understood how it works she risks a lot.
If you have no character and no clear ideas being a pornstar is not easy... the people who know can understand what I mean.


Here is the link: http://www.bullz-eye.com/gnd/2007/12Timi/page1.htm
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Postby Raytech on Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:42 pm

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Postby chris on Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:22 pm

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Postby PlayBoy on Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:31 pm

Kindly confirm if the pic on the link below is her...

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5415
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Postby Ricardo Soli on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:10 pm

PlayBoy wrote:Kindly confirm if the pic on the link below is her...

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5415


Yes is here :evil:
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Postby Monkeyman on Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:10 am

http://www.youporn.com/watch/154327

think this is her... sorry if ive got the wrong girl, but still, a hot video :P
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Postby bil on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:26 pm

dont seem to be anything new - has she quit the biz? OR have people stopped hiring her
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Postby DP-lover on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:19 pm

Very good looking, great body, but she doesnt want a dick or two hammered in her holes, so zzzzz.
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Postby Raytech on Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:53 pm

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