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Surprise Beauty?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:00 am
by Billbo
"Surprise Beauty?" In other words, dishonest. :shock:
Generally, one doesn't pay a model or "actress" in the U.S. until after the shoot. For most matters of more than a few hundred dollars, a contract is mandatory and a contract is generally very specific and is not easily broken. There may be an advance and certainly travel expenses are paid in advance, but payment is after the job is done, like any job. If someone demanded double money part way through a project, then their part of the project ends right then and they are sent home without payment. Breach of contract. If they only finished half the job, that is still breach of contract. If the breach is sufficient and premeditated, it constitutes fraud, which is a crime. A model who does that kind of thing generally cannot get away with it for long as there are always other models to photograph or film. Lack of professionalism and a bad attitude ends a career in a hurry.

Re: Surprise Beauty?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:12 pm
by alexxx
Billbo wrote:"Surprise Beauty?" In other words, dishonest. :shock:
Generally, one doesn't pay a model or "actress" in the U.S. until after the shoot. For most matters of more than a few hundred dollars, a contract is mandatory and a contract is generally very specific and is not easily broken. There may be an advance and certainly travel expenses are paid in advance, but payment is after the job is done, like any job. If someone demanded double money part way through a project, then their part of the project ends right then and they are sent home without payment. Breach of contract. If they only finished half the job, that is still breach of contract. If the breach is sufficient and premeditated, it constitutes fraud, which is a crime. A model who does that kind of thing generally cannot get away with it for long as there are always other models to photograph or film. Lack of professionalism and a bad attitude ends a career in a hurry.


I dont think Angel is a criminal... I saw many girls not really convinced in what they were doing and then complaining or even crying on the set.
Usually it happens if the girl has to do something for few bucks or no bucks at all! But I don't think is the case of Angel.
Generally in Europe apply the same rules than in USA (especially if you work for a US company) but you try always to give one chance to a girl if she deserves.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:06 pm
by cognitos
From Twistys :)

Re: Surprise Beauty?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:32 pm
by Ricardo Soli
alexxx wrote:
Billbo wrote:"Surprise Beauty?" In other words, dishonest. :shock:
Generally, one doesn't pay a model or "actress" in the U.S. until after the shoot. For most matters of more than a few hundred dollars, a contract is mandatory and a contract is generally very specific and is not easily broken. There may be an advance and certainly travel expenses are paid in advance, but payment is after the job is done, like any job. If someone demanded double money part way through a project, then their part of the project ends right then and they are sent home without payment. Breach of contract. If they only finished half the job, that is still breach of contract. If the breach is sufficient and premeditated, it constitutes fraud, which is a crime. A model who does that kind of thing generally cannot get away with it for long as there are always other models to photograph or film. Lack of professionalism and a bad attitude ends a career in a hurry.


I dont think Angel is a criminal... I saw many girls not really convinced in what they were doing and then complaining or even crying on the set.
Usually it happens if the girl has to do something for few bucks or no bucks at all! But I don't think is the case of Angel.
Generally in Europe apply the same rules than in USA (especially if you work for a US company) but you try always to give one chance to a girl if she deserves.

Angel isn't criminal. She just doesn't have the right attitude of work. When i saw a young girl starting her career like her i know from the beginning, she have to go a bit working in McDo for example, and later to come back. With my experience on hiring beginners on this adult world, i feel guilty when i saw everybody is amused only about her body&looking without to think what kind of support gives to a baby in her mind.
You can search on bullz-eye.com to see for what kind of pics. she was asking for double fee ( the offered fee it was a fee usually payd for lesbian hardcore for famous pornstars), when other girls like Boroka, Lara Stevens, etc. were glad to do it for free, only to get some pics on theyre portfolio. And the worst thing is she's offering at the end herself for escorting for the half price of the shooting at the end to my client. You think for shure we need to support this kind of models?
You saw her looking at you from a pick, sexy? Or you're amazed only about things i writed you before?

look on the pick choosed and posted by you. What i realise, is only the fact she's waiting to finish the shooting, to get her duplicated fees, and to go for shopping. She doesn't open her fingers, she doesn't push her as a bit, she's looking bored at all.
1 year and she will be or a drug addict, or a fat woman. I feel guilty cuz i've convinced her to be a model. :oops: :idea:

Re: Surprise Beauty?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:21 pm
by alexxx
Ricardo Soli wrote:Angel isn't criminal. She just doesn't have the right attitude of work. When i saw a young girl starting her career like her i know from the beginning, she have to go a bit working in McDo for example, and later to come back. With my experience on hiring beginners on this adult world, i feel guilty when i saw everybody is amused only about her body&looking without to think what kind of support gives to a baby in her mind.
You can search on bullz-eye.com to see for what kind of pics. she was asking for double fee ( the offered fee it was a fee usually payd for lesbian hardcore for famous pornstars), when other girls like Boroka, Lara Stevens, etc. were glad to do it for free, only to get some pics on theyre portfolio. And the worst thing is she's offering at the end herself for escorting for the half price of the shooting at the end to my client. You think for shure we need to support this kind of models?
You saw her looking at you from a pick, sexy? Or you're amazed only about things i writed you before?

look on the pick choosed and posted by you. What i realise, is only the fact she's waiting to finish the shooting, to get her duplicated fees, and to go for shopping. She doesn't open her fingers, she doesn't push her as a bit, she's looking bored at all.
1 year and she will be or a drug addict, or a fat woman. I feel guilty cuz i've convinced her to be a model. :oops: :idea:


Ricardo I share 100% your view. I don't want to be misunderstood.
I don't defend her attitude. I say only to Bilbo she's not criminal but she has not the right attitude.
Agents and producers can only lost money if they work with this people.
On the other hand you always try and then you see: I saw in the past some casting in the style "try and go" and this is also is part of the biz.
For sure if the girl has no understood how it works she risks a lot.
If you have no character and no clear ideas being a pornstar is not easy... the people who know can understand what I mean.

Re: Surprise Beauty?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:59 pm
by Ricardo Soli
alexxx wrote:
Ricardo Soli wrote:Angel isn't criminal. She just doesn't have the right attitude of work. When i saw a young girl starting her career like her i know from the beginning, she have to go a bit working in McDo for example, and later to come back. With my experience on hiring beginners on this adult world, i feel guilty when i saw everybody is amused only about her body&looking without to think what kind of support gives to a baby in her mind.
You can search on bullz-eye.com to see for what kind of pics. she was asking for double fee ( the offered fee it was a fee usually payd for lesbian hardcore for famous pornstars), when other girls like Boroka, Lara Stevens, etc. were glad to do it for free, only to get some pics on theyre portfolio. And the worst thing is she's offering at the end herself for escorting for the half price of the shooting at the end to my client. You think for shure we need to support this kind of models?
You saw her looking at you from a pick, sexy? Or you're amazed only about things i writed you before?

look on the pick choosed and posted by you. What i realise, is only the fact she's waiting to finish the shooting, to get her duplicated fees, and to go for shopping. She doesn't open her fingers, she doesn't push her as a bit, she's looking bored at all.
1 year and she will be or a drug addict, or a fat woman. I feel guilty cuz i've convinced her to be a model. :oops: :idea:


Ricardo I share 100% your view. I don't want to be misunderstood.
I don't defend her attitude. I say only to Bilbo she's not criminal but she has not the right attitude.
Agents and producers can only lost money if they work with this people.
On the other hand you always try and then you see: I saw in the past some casting in the style "try and go" and this is also is part of the biz.
For sure if the girl has no understood how it works she risks a lot.
If you have no character and no clear ideas being a pornstar is not easy... the people who know can understand what I mean.


Here is the link: http://www.bullz-eye.com/gnd/2007/12Timi/page1.htm

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:42 pm
by Raytech

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:22 pm
by chris

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:31 pm
by PlayBoy
Kindly confirm if the pic on the link below is her...

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5415

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:10 pm
by Ricardo Soli
PlayBoy wrote:Kindly confirm if the pic on the link below is her...

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5415


Yes is here :evil:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:10 am
by Monkeyman
http://www.youporn.com/watch/154327

think this is her... sorry if ive got the wrong girl, but still, a hot video :P

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:26 pm
by bil
dont seem to be anything new - has she quit the biz? OR have people stopped hiring her

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:19 pm
by DP-lover
Very good looking, great body, but she doesnt want a dick or two hammered in her holes, so zzzzz.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:58 pm
by Callisto

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:53 pm
by Raytech