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Postby Camarillobrillo on Tue May 27, 2008 12:49 am

claudia_rossi_fan_1 wrote:I fait to see what's erotic in putting two dicks in one ass.


As i said i'm not a Dap expert at all either but i think it has more to deal with
a sort of awe for the girl ability to withstand such extreme pounding...
awe that, when the scene is well shot, can easily become erotic

at least it's so for me...

With girls as beautiful As Juliana, Prima and Jane to name a few thrown in
the fray i'm sure that in the near future Daps will become more present in my "to see" agenda...
and honestly i can't complain much...

Ok waiting for lesson 2 :wink:
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Postby dap-addict on Tue May 27, 2008 5:37 am

Camarillobrillo wrote:Ok waiting for lesson 2 :wink:


Lession 2: Ukraine
When porn in Russia was still barely existant and only Pierre Woodman would shortly venture to Moscow in his search for new talent, Ukrainian girls would already shoot dap along with the most enveloppe pushing Eurobabes in Budapest. 8)

Nikoletta (not on EBI yet, but here is a forum tread about her) shot her first dap along with Silvia Saint for Frank Thrings famous Double Anal Club 1 in 1996! (The first decent Russian dap was shot 10 years later) And it was her who around 2000 started to introduce Ukrainian girls to the Budapest biz, actually providing it with some of it`s best Eurodap girls at the time. Alissa was managed by Nikoletta as well as Polina and many others like Kristina flocking into Anabolics than important World Sex Tour line giving the World really fresh daps delivered by rookies.
Around 2005 Nikolettas dap well dried out for unknown reasons. Pamela, shot by CC for a good dap in Euro Angel Hardball 25, must have been one of her last girls. Nikoletta had no successor. And Ukrainian cuties thus basically stopped to work in Budapest.

But thanks to Wiska the Ukrainian flag continued to fly high in Europorn. The cute Crimean girl marked another migation route of Ukrainian talent, tough - not to the West and Budapest but North to St. Peterburg. Wiska shot 3 daps for DDF, who started to shoot in Russia and with Russian girls flown into their Prague/Budapest studios amongst the first. Finally also CC shot her for his Russian Angels. The movie title tells Ukraines newer dap history - they firm like Russians! A bitter end after Nikolettas glorious start in 1996.

Epiloque: New visa regulations made it difficult nowadays to work in Budapest/Prague for Ukrainian girls. The times Ukrainian dap girls worked together with Eurodap VIPs like Sandra Romain from Romaina ( :arrow: Lession 3) or local dap girls like Vanessa Virgin or Jenna Red seem past. But St. Peterburg is an option, too. A light in the tunnel for the Ukrainian dap tradition, that always looked to the West.


Recap:
Lession 1: Russia
The first decent Russian dap was shot as late as 2006 by CC (Christoph Clark), the ass master. He gave Maya two studs and JYL, the assman himself, to dap her. And the result was like the cast - excellent! A long power dap, that should actually have made clear what potential sleeps deep up North in Russia.

At the same time Sineplex and Swank shot a few other Russian daps with Kamila, Courtney, Oksana, Cleopatra Casco a.o. All these daps shot in St. Peterburg were badly shot, often only in one position and lasted about the blink of an eyelid. It was like they were made to proof that there will be never Russian daps actually.

With one exception: When the Italian porner Giorgio Grandi moved to St. Peterburg he started to shoot his gf for dap like he had done with many girls in Italy before. Juliana Grandi starred in 6 daps since 2007. Until TCB2 and TT57 she was the only hope that Russia woulf finally find it`s way to the top of Europorn. No wonder it`s exactly Juliana Grandi performing in the first scene of TCB2.
Juliana links the dark past with the bright future of Russian dap. :)


PS: Another St. Peterburg based highly dap-able girl is often referred to as Russian. Wiska (4 daps so far, first dap shot in 2005), however, is Ukrainian. And Ukraine has a far brighter dap history than Russia. :arrow: Lession 2: Ukraine
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Postby gapelover on Tue May 27, 2008 5:47 am

ronk wrote:I want more Russian daps. When is the next batch of all Russian daps coming out? I would like to see more of Jane and Katrin and more newbies.

Hehe :)
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Postby dap-addict on Tue May 27, 2008 7:02 am

No new Russian daps already for ronk and gapelover, but I thought it would be fair to illustrate the History of Russian DAP a bit. :)

dap-addict wrote:Lession 1: Russia
The first decent Russian dap was shot as late as 2006 by CC (Christoph Clark), the ass master. He gave Maya two studs and JYL, the assman himself, to dap her. And the result was like the cast - excellent! A long power dap, that should actually have made clear what potential sleeps deep up North in Russia.

At the same time Sineplex and Swank shot a few other Russian daps with Kamila, Courtney, Oksana, Cleopatra Casco a.o. All these daps shot in St. Peterburg were badly shot, often only in one position and lasted about the blink of an eyelid. It was like they were made to proof that there will be never Russian daps actually.

With one exception: When the Italian porner Giorgio Grandi moved to St. Peterburg he started to shoot his gf for dap like he had done with many girls in Italy before. Juliana Grandi starred in 6 daps since 2007. Until TCB2 and TT57 she was the only hope that Russia woulf finally find it`s way to the top of Europorn. No wonder it`s exactly Juliana Grandi performing in the first scene of TCB2.
Juliana links the dark past with the bright future of Russian dap. :)


:arrow: Maya and Juliana Grandi:
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Juliana Grandi was flewn in to Italy for this bbgg shot with Italian porn star Alicia Ricci. And she even brought her Piter agent stockings with her! Juliana`s first dap and really cute. (Alice nel Paese degli Perversioni, ATV 2007)
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Maya plays a nurse in CC`s Euro Domination 8 and as you can immagine she gets immediate attention from her three patients. This is one of those rare 100% anal only shots, i.e. her studs never even touch her pussy with their dicks. (ED8, Evil Angel 2006)
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Postby dap-addict on Tue May 27, 2008 9:39 pm

ronk wrote:I want more Russian daps. When is the next batch of all Russian daps coming out? I would like to see more of Jane and Katrin and more newbies.

If I got Joachim Kessef right, he is already shooting more Russian daps for Combat Zone. 8)
I guess Two Cocks in the Booty 3 may be out before the end of the year.
Not sure about the Sineplex crew shooting for Devils. Incorperating their all dap issue in the Teen Tryout line somehow suggests they dont plan more. :(
I know for sure that also Giorgio Grandi is thinking of a new dap project. :)

Anyone knowing more? Any new porn travellers arrived in Piter during the last few months.
:?:


Btw, basically dont worry, these two releases will wake a lot of producers up now!
But given the time lapse these projects may not make it to the shelfs before early 2009.
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Postby aquin on Wed May 28, 2008 2:52 pm

Congratulations, dap-addict for the research and historical foundation. i agree that the duality of tcb2 and tt57 is a landmark in the history of dap. i watched both movies and can say that your conclusions make sense. anyway, time will tell.
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Postby dap-addict on Thu May 29, 2008 4:18 am

aquin wrote:i agree that the duality of tcb2 and tt57 is a landmark in the history of dap. i watched both movies and can say that your conclusions make sense. anyway, time will tell.

Dont know enough about the technical shooting aspects for Russia, but their large teen talent pool and booking prices should do its best to win over new directors. Just think of it: A dap in Piter costs four times less than what a French director recently payed in Budapest for dap!
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Postby ronk on Thu May 29, 2008 4:27 am

dap-addict wrote:
aquin wrote:i agree that the duality of tcb2 and tt57 is a landmark in the history of dap. i watched both movies and can say that your conclusions make sense. anyway, time will tell.

Dont know enough about the technical shooting aspects for Russia, but their large teen talent pool and booking prices should do its best to win over new directors. Just think of it: A dap in Piter costs four times less than what a French director recently payed in Budapest for dap!
:arrow: :)


Based on the cost factor, we should be seeing 4 times as many all-dap titles and many many more dap scenes. I wonder what happened to all the countless Russian dap that I do not see :( .
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Postby dap-addict on Thu May 29, 2008 5:10 pm

ronk wrote:Based on the cost factor, we should be seeing 4 times as many all-dap titles and many many more dap scenes. I wonder what happened to all the countless Russian dap that I do not see :( .


Up to September 2007 almost only Sineplex shot porn in Russia. DAP didnt (and still doesnt) belong to their own porn concept. That´s the main reason.
Dion Giarruso contacting Sineplex and offering to pay good money for dap changed everything. But dont ask me why he contacted them so late!
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Postby cleopatrox on Fri May 30, 2008 7:19 am

dap-addict wrote: Dont know enough about the technical shooting aspects for Russia, but their large teen talent pool and booking prices should do its best to win over new directors. Just think of it: A dap in Piter costs four times less than what a French director recently payed in Budapest for dap!
:arrow: :)


I think it is not only about DAP, but also about creampies, A2P and other specific scenes.

I have a questions about testing system in Russia. It is paradoxical. Russians shoot without condoms and make real extreme scenes, but it cost four time less money.

I can say more. I saw some real russian films from early years. Real russian productions with russian models, russian producers, operators and editors. OK ! There was not DAP, creampies and A2P scenes, nothing special. I took these films because those are russians. I was very surprised. All scenes - unprotected sex! I remember it was production from 1999 or 2000.

I have seen one fresh film. "Shkolnica 5". I remember there were group of russian models who work in europa also. I remember there was great orgy scene with more than 20 people and no condoms at all! :shock:
It is interesting. How they make tests? How much it cost? I think it was not a cheap. They shoot orgy with more than 20 people. It mean that they need make a full panel tests for every performer. :?: :?: :?:
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Postby Keni Styles on Fri May 30, 2008 10:55 am

dap-addict wrote:
ronk wrote:I want more Russian daps. When is the next batch of all Russian daps coming out? I would like to see more of Jane and Katrin and more newbies.

If I got Joachim Kessef right, he is already shooting more Russian daps for Combat Zone. 8)

Anyone knowing more? Any new porn travellers arrived in Piter during the last few months.
:?:


Hey guys,

This is really an exciting time for russian models to showcase themselves and compete on the europorn map. I do not have any information about the other producers but I can assure you the real leader coming out of the dark tunnel of russian daps is Joachim Kessef!

Yet again another undenyable french pervert in the foot steps of CC is pushing forwards and you can really expect to see a lot more from this man in the nearest future. He is just about to set off to Russia again and I think this time he has an added spring in his step! He is using a great team and he and his actors are specialists in this, you can really see in the performances.

I was with him in Prague when he came back from a long trip in Russia not more than a few weeks ago in April or something. He showed me some of the raw footage, completely uncut that he had just shot there and I have to say that these are the best dap scenes I have ever seen.

Long sustained action in the dap, no blocking of the shots and the many many fresh faced girls are looking so sexy, who the fuck cares about the furniture when this kind of action is going on? lol!

Im my eyes there is nothing bisexual or gay about appreciating or performing in this kind of niche. In my opinion the best thing about dap, as somebody else said before is the awe. The amazement factor that the girl is making such an extreme act. The fact that it is such a boundary pushing display of her limits is what makes her truely amazing.

So at this point, if she is maintaning any kind of enjoyment or pleasure even at this extremity, and for me personally it must be genuine pleasure not some kind of "oohh aaah yes fuck me" through gritted teeth and teary eyes. Then this, this is amazing display of hunger in a woman and simply for that reason it is really a great turn on for me!!

I'm a big fan of this too so I cant wait,

Keni

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tests in russia

Postby cleanlife on Fri May 30, 2008 11:15 am

Nice question!!! And more that that -it is correct wonderings))

All models working to Sineplex in Russia where sick afterwards, beccause in Russia they ask only tests for HIV, Gepatit, Siphylis!

It cocsts around 50-60 USD to make it. To make all screening tests will cast 150-200 USD.

Now imagine, if the model is paid for her work at Sineplex 200 USD - how really often they do screenings??? Maximum HIV, Gepatit, Siphylis.

The other shooting companies - around the same shit. Usually hte models are working, then sick and then pay more than halh money they got for the doctors.

cleopatrox wrote:
dap-addict wrote: Dont know enough about the technical shooting aspects for Russia, but their large teen talent pool and booking prices should do its best to win over new directors. Just think of it: A dap in Piter costs four times less than what a French director recently payed in Budapest for dap!
:arrow: :)


I think it is not only about DAP, but also about creampies, A2P and other specific scenes.

I have a questions about testing system in Russia. It is paradoxical. Russians shoot without condoms and make real extreme scenes, but it cost four time less money.

I can say more. I saw some real russian films from early years. Real russian productions with russian models, russian producers, operators and editors. OK ! There was not DAP, creampies and A2P scenes, nothing special. I took these films because those are russians. I was very surprised. All scenes - unprotected sex! I remember it was production from 1999 or 2000.

I have seen one fresh film. "Shkolnica 5". I remember there were group of russian models who work in europa also. I remember there was great orgy scene with more than 20 people and no condoms at all! :shock:
It is interesting. How they make tests? How much it cost? I think it was not a cheap. They shoot orgy with more than 20 people. It mean that they need make a full panel tests for every performer. :?: :?: :?:
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Postby STEMCELL on Fri May 30, 2008 11:18 am

Keni Styles wrote:Im my eyes there is nothing bisexual or gay about appreciating or performing in this kind of niche. In my opinion the best thing about dap, as somebody else said before is the awe. The amazement factor that the girl is making such an extreme act. The fact that it is such a boundary pushing display of her limits is what makes her truely amazing.
:D

Great post as always Keni!

Did you shot your first DAP already? I know this is a question for females only, but in your case I could not resist :lol:
He, and don not forget to tell your nasty girlfriends from eromaxx about DP/DAP pleasures :wink:
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Postby Keni Styles on Fri May 30, 2008 12:06 pm

STEMCELL wrote:
Keni Styles wrote:Im my eyes there is nothing bisexual or gay about appreciating or performing in this kind of niche. In my opinion the best thing about dap, as somebody else said before is the awe. The amazement factor that the girl is making such an extreme act. The fact that it is such a boundary pushing display of her limits is what makes her truely amazing.
:D

Great post as always Keni!

Did you shot your first DAP already? I know this is a question for females only, but in your case I could not resist :lol:
He, and don not forget to tell your nasty girlfriends from eromaxx about DP/DAP pleasures :wink:


Hi Stemcell,

Haha! Your asking me girls questions now!? Should I feel privaledged or insulted! lol! only joking man.

Well the answer is yes. I shot a dap scene with Isabel Ice, a black uk actor Sensi and me. It was for a uk website but I will have to get back to you with a link.

This was not a great dap scene, there was more enphasis on the dp and actually they only shot one dap position.

I havent shot any since then and that was right at the beginning of my career. Its not like I have avoided these scenes or I am not capable. It is simply that I have been busy with other types of productions.

Also perhaps I didnt get booked for this sometimes simply down to sheer physical factors. Longer cocks are great to shoot dp's and wider cocks are working well for gapes? What do you do if your short and skinny! hahaha!!

Anyway I have plenty of time so I dont mind and like I said porn was and still is for me about amazement. It is about watching a fantasy, something amazing that wouldnt happen in your life.

Sometimes living out your personal fantasy does not live up to it just being fantasy?

This is why I am still such a fan of porn!

Keni

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Re: tests in russia

Postby cleopatrox on Fri May 30, 2008 1:47 pm

cleanlife wrote:Nice question!!! And more that that -it is correct wonderings))

All models working to Sineplex in Russia where sick afterwards, beccause in Russia they ask only tests for HIV, Gepatit, Siphylis!

It cocsts around 50-60 USD to make it. To make all screening tests will cast 150-200 USD.

Now imagine, if the model is paid for her work at Sineplex 200 USD - how really often they do screenings??? Maximum HIV, Gepatit, Siphylis.

The other shooting companies - around the same shit. Usually hte models are working, then sick and then pay more than halh money they got for the doctors.


It mean that tests for chlamydia and gonorrhea is not mandatory in russian porn! It is like real russian roulette! :shock: :shock: :shock: I read about some chlamydia cases in the sineplex, but I thought that it was accident. Now i understand what was the cause. Only 200 USD for unprotected sex scene without mandatory tests for chlamydia and gonorrhea - it is insanity! :o

how much they pay for creampie orgy?
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